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Matt Ioannidis is signing with the Carolina Panthers, per source
BrianS replied to SgtJoo's topic in Carolina Panthers
No, this is smart. The older a player is, the shorter contract you should be giving them. Ioannidis isn't "old" by any means, but not young. He'll be 28 when the season starts. The guy is betting on himself here. He missed most of 2020, and only started six games last year despite playing in 16. His "big" years were playing as a DE, and Rivera has him at DT. It's different than Reddick in that (we hope) there aren't a bunch of void years that kick it down the road. -
The NBA is a very, very different game. One player can easily make a much bigger impact there.
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There is no way the Iggles are giving up Minshew for a reasonable price. They clearly don't have much faith in Hurts, and Minshew is a cheap backup. I wouldn't be at all shocked if Minshew has nearly as many snaps as Hurts this next season.
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Just another example of an NFL trend: we'd rather accept lower odds high ceiling / low floor guy than bring in a guy with a lower ceiling / higher floor. It's one of the reasons the NFL is having the QB crisis that it is. We've started looking at Kirk Cousins, David Carr, etc as stat padders, failures, not good enough. It's the wrong way to look at it. Consistent, winning franchises don't necessarily need Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes to compete. A lot of this has to do with playing in the Tom Brady era. A lot of teams got stopped short by Brady. Not just in the Super Bowl, but in the playoffs. Since 2001, there have only been seven seasons where Brady didn't knock at least one team - if not more - out. Overall, Brady has knocked 30 teams out. Never before has a QB so dramatically affected the outcome of the league for such a long period of time. This is what teams are trying to fight. They need someone who can beat the GOAT if called upon. QB play overall has suffered because teams are trying to hit home runs instead of getting on base.
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Would YOU want to play the Browns with Watson at QB? Baker got them to 11-5 year before last and won a playoff game.
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That's not QUITE true. Rhule doesn't like veterans . . . except HIS veterans. Nothing else could explain the OLine situation as it relates to Brown and Christiansen this year.
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I'd go one step further and say that no player on a team can take up more than "some agreed percentage" of the cap. Something between 10 and 15 seems like a place to start. I don't think this is likely to happen until someone really starts to do the math and figure it out. Getting back to the OP, I think it would probably be better to look at not just winning the SB, but getting to the SB. It's been a bad playing field since Brady has been in the league. Have higher priced QB's made it to the SB and lost? Because the Brady era will end - eventually. And he definitely took less through the prime of his career than his place in the QB rankings might indicate he should have.
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He has the versatility that Rhule loves. Sounds like it's a done deal! bleh.
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I'd be interested in how many other NFL coaches "liked" this. That would probably give us some indication of whether we should be appalled or apathetic.
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That would be the end for me. Bring Watson. Fine. But letting the players choose the coach is far too far. If that was our choice Riverboat should still be here, because by all reports the players absolutely love him.
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Campen will make the line better. No doubt. Would still be a shock if they were "good". The big issue is we got through last year without giving adequate time to two draft picks. We still aren't sure what their ceiling is. Maybe they already hit their ceiling and Campen won't help. Maybe they have room to get better. This proposal says we go into the year with two unknowns and a FA. We just can't know anything there. I think we'll look better offensively this year with actual NFL coaches on that side of the ball. Though it's becoming questionable whether Brady was really the issue.
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This is exactly my concern. Watson is a great QB, not even debatable. But there is no way we give up talent plus draft picks for him and still find a way to support him.
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I mean, I get it if the reports about a blowup between Dak and Amari are true. Dak may or may not be "the guy". But there are WAY more good WR's than good QB's. There is no way Cooper comes out on top. None. Terrell Owens was far more dominant in his time. Didn't support his QB. Gone. Released. No compensation at all. I don't think this hurts the overall WR market. It's just an example of players not understanding that one of the things you can't do is turn on your QB.
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Draft class with current picks is estimated at about 6.5 million. Could go up or down depending on what we do with those picks. Most likely down.
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James Campen #1 signing this offseason, so far.
BrianS replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
To me, Campen is a no lose situation. Seems pretty obvious that the players will be largely the same ones who ended last year. We might get some help, but don't expect it to be a lot. If he comes in and turns the line around, there is no one else to steal his thunder. It will be VERY clear that he did it. His reputation improves. If he comes in and there is no change, you can't blame him. The entire team is a mess, the line moreso than the rest. One of the best OLine coaches in the league couldn't fix it. That's an indictment of Rhule and the front office. We can't lose with this guy. -
This appears to be correct. Each charge is considered individually. If any charge met the legal requirements, it can be pursued individually. The fact that no criminal charges were pursued say a lot. The fact that it took the grand jury only a day to decide this for all charges says a lot. I'm not a fan of Watson's moral choices at all. But there was no evidence that met the legal requirements to suggest he is a criminal. This is to me the important thing we all should take from this. He's not a criminal. You can still dislike Watson for whatever reason you like. But I'd remind everyone here to look back on their own life and remember that most of us have made questionable moral choices in the past. Being rich only exacerbates the situation. If I was rich at that age, I daresay I'd have made some really stupid moral choices. I won't cast stones at him for that. I'll hope that he learns from it.
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This will not happen. We already have 18 million on the books for a backup QB. You don't get to add 35 more for Deshaun and still sign Cam. That would be a truly masterful way to completely throw the team in the toilet. We paid Cam what, $6 million for half a season last year? Would he suddenly take four million for a full season with NO CHANCE to play? Come on man, have you followed Cam? He wants to play. With Deshaun here he would offer us literally nothing. Not to mention our other needs! Our OLine was historically awful. Taking on Watson's contract effectively means we have ZERO cap remaining. Oh, and we just gave up our chance to fix it this year in the draft. We need a franchise QB. I'm just not sure the asking price is one we can pay while getting the best out of our team. Burns is surely gone. Reddick is gone. Gilmore. Jackson. DJ's extension would be that much harder. We could easily win a few more games next year with Watson - but we wouldn't be a better team. We'd waste the best years of our franchise QB's career trying to build a team around him. Getting your hands on a franchise QB in this fashion won't get you to the SB.
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I don't think this is really what that school of thought intends. I believe the "build the team" school of thought simply says: If you believe you have identified a franchise guy, draft him regardless of where others feel he should "slot". If you don't see one, fix everything else you can until you have the opportunity. Keep doing that until you see the opportunity you need to get one. It's exactly what makes a team a playoff contender year in year out. Maybe they don't have "the guy" for a few years, that doesn't mean they give up. It doesn't mean they don't compete.
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On any staff besides ours this would be an absolute nothing move. No one would even note it. Of no importance whatsoever. With our staff so far beyond the pale however, any move is like salt in the wounds at this point. Nothing they do will be right. Only a massive turnaround will rescue them, and with our cap and draft capital the correct resources to create that just aren't there.
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Agree. I think we're gonna want Bouye's presence in our DB room this year. Henderson and Horn have the pedigree to be one of the best CB duos in the league. Chinn is a DPOY waiting to happen. But you need that stabilizing presence. Especially for Henderson who is either going to turn it around here or bust completely out of the league. And with Henderson, it's 100% in his head.
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I mean, ok, so he had a kid with another woman. He wanted it kept quiet. The mother agreed, he paid her. He set up funds for the mother and daughter. Now the alleged daughter wants . . . what? I don't get it. She can say who her father was, but she loses support because that's what was agreed. Parents don't owe their adult children anything financially. This woman is apparently succesful, so . . . does she somehow believe that being "publicly" Jerry Jones daughter is going to make any sort of difference in her life? A positive difference? Really? Dumb.
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If he continues the form he found for us, that's a great signing. If he slips back to his career averages, he won't cost much to get rid of. Win/win for a change.
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Whole lot of Deshaun Watson chatter happening out there
BrianS replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
That's not semantics, it's called burden of proof. This is how the law works in America, innocent until proven guilty. For a criminal case of any kind, burden of proof requires a legal definition of "beyond a reasonable doubt". For a civil case, burden of proof requires a legal definition of "preponderance of the evidence". These are important definitions everyone needs to understand, but for some reason aren't well understood or widely taught. A lot of outrage could be easily avoided with education regarding our legal system and particularly toward the definitions and application of the law. I once sat on a jury for a wrongful death suit. While the situation was very sad, the education and understanding I got of our legal system was invaluable. I know a lot of people see jury duty as a burden, but it really will give you a great appreciation for the country we live in and how much thought and care has gone into creating the system we have. It's not perfect, by no means. But we have some very good standards here that we shouldn't take for granted. -
With this regime, it doesn't seem to be the guys they talk about that we should be concerned over. "I'm looking forward to working with and coaching Cam", etc. Stories and leaks like this seem to be routine. And frankly, they should be with a good staff - not that this staff will ever be accused of such. But, a good staff should tailor the "leaks" to throw off their competition.