BrianS

I cannot believe we had all that talent and no ring to show for it. These guys deserved better. That's six Ring of Honor players right there, and probably two gold jackets.

This is why we can let Curtis walk. FWIW, Agent89 "only" managed 1200+ yards from scrimmage five times in his career.

There's a LOT of truth there. When you look at Tannehill's numbers, he actually IMPROVED under Gase as a QB. The team didn't succeed under Gase, but Tannehill learned and improved. I don't want either of the Sams - Darnold or Donaldson - as our QB, let alone give up anything to acquire them. The fact that they are willing to talk about it is a pretty good indication that they want to go QB, but can't figure out how to make that work.

This is where people go off course. None of these things bolded above are a skill set. Those are statistics. Skill set is things like ball velocity, arm strength, timing, anticipation, touch, accuracy, leadership, pocket presence, running, etc. Jones has shown: Touch, accuracy. That's what we know of his skill set. You know who else has those traits? TB5. Alex Smith. Yes, many QB's with touch and accuracy have won rings. But they also display many of the other traits I listed above.

The NFL brought this problem on themselves. They've continued to emphasis offense over defense, and every offense starts with the QB. It was much easier in the past to compete with an "average" QB, but you now need a "good" QB just to compete week in week out. The college game isn't preparing it's QB's for the NFL properly because of all the vastly simplified one read systems. One day we'll see a shift, I hope. I'd like to see teams at least have a chance without that super high level QB, mostly because there are so few of them.

Good player, but it's a luxury signing on a roster without a lot of room for luxury.

Mac Jones couldn't beat out Jalen Hurts or Tua . . . but is somehow better than Fields? The guy is .500 in games decided by less than two scores. He lost one last year, badly, to Auburn. He should have lost this year to Florida, but got bailed out by the Florida receivers. The guy just hasn't shown anything but good touch. That's it.

You say this all the time . . . but where is it coming from? Wilson has never missed a game. Wilson is 6-3, 210, BMI of 26.2. For comparitive purposes, Eli Manning was 6-5, 220, BMI of 26.1 and Alex Smith was 6-4, 217, BMI of 26.4. Neither of those guys had "durability issues". I don't get it man. He's not yet a college senior, yes, he could stand to put on a few pounds. What college prospect do you NOT say that about? Wilson may or may not succeed in the NFL, but it won't be due to durability.

Obvious troll is . . . obvious?

Bear in mind we're spoiled around here. So accustomed to absolute top notch LB's. Unfortunately, I don't think we're in a position to get one with our other needs so blatant. We've got to get off the field on third down. Our issues were largely just getting guys covered long enough for our pass rush to get home. Burns and Brown were nightmares for opposing offenses, but our coverage wasn't giving them that extra half second they needed. We've got to start by getting better coverage on the outside. Our defense would look a TON better if we could just give our pass runs another half second to second. A LB just isn't going to do that for us.

Sounds like he could be good for Derek Brown's development. Here's hoping.

Don't mind the idea of a developmental QB . . . but if we take a QB at the top of the draft, or give up picks in trade for one, we can't waste any picks on a developmental QB. The entire team is still too thin for that.

I'm not a Trey Lance fan at all, but there is NO WAY you take Jones over Lance at any point. I'm not sure Jones is even Kellen Mond or Jamie Newman. He's definitely no Trey Lance. If you draft Lance, at least there's the chance that you just drafted the next Kyler Murray / Lamar Jackson / Josh Allen / etc.

Isn't Kiper the guy who was gonna call it a career if Pickles flopped? I mean . . .

The actual numbers over the last 25 years is that the first round QB's succeed at about 50%, and the other rounds at about 10%. The last 10 years or so have been weaker. I read somewhere on the Huddle in the last couple days that an analyst had predicted that would be the case due to so many one read systems cropping up in the college game. If true, that guy is a genius. ffs this again. Mac Jones hit receivers running so ridiculously wide open that anyone could have done it. This is the same Mac Jones who couldn't manage to beat out Tua at 'Bama. Tua, who has looked flat out bad in the NFL. Show me Jones fitting a ball in a tight window. Show me Jones hitting the deep out cross field. Show me Jones bringing his team back from behind in the fourth. Listen, it's not his fault he never had to show that. I get it. But he still hasn't shown it. I'd rather have a guy who has shown those things. I'd rather have a guy who played out of his mind on a two or three loss college team, that dealt with adversity, who didn't have the best around him and showed some of those NFL traits.

This to me is the biggest strike against Bridgewater. I don't care how far he throws it, as long as he wins. I don't care who he throws it to, as long as he wins. Bridgewater had eight opportunities this year to show me that he's a WINNER. He failed to accomplish it . . . EIGHT TIMES. You can't go on a Super Bowl run with a guy who can't come up big in big situations. This is the problem with Teddy. Imagine Teddy managed to get it done four times out of eight. Again, I don't care how. Had he done so, this team would have been 9 - 7 and we would have all been amazed at how quickly the franchise turned. We would have gone into late game situations with the mindset that "We have a chance". Nope. We have no shot with TB5. Even the locker room at this point has to see it. He just didn't get it done, and you can't go to war with "that guy" leading the charge.

I was more thinking in terms of positional spending versus post season success. I tried to do it with Spotrac but apparently that's a "premium" feature. What positions SHOULD you spend on to achieve post seaons success, again, QB aside since it's stupidly obvious.

Sure, but set aside QB for a moment. Honestly, QB is so obvious it's not even very interesting. Everyone gets it. I think the interesting data here would be what positions actually increase your chances over the baseline. Is it WR? Is it RB? DE? LT? I'd love to know, I just don't even know where to start to collect all that data.

Bear in mind, the chance for any team to reach the Super Bowl any given year is 6.25%. In this case, it appears that high dollar running backs actually slightly increase your chances from 6.25% to 8%. Not huge, but there it is. As was said, Brady has REALLY skewed stats the last 15-20 years. Six of the years since 2010 (the scope of the discussion) Brady has been in the game, meaning that those high dollar RB's didn't really have much chance. High dollar RB's are one thing, the GOAT QB is a different level entirely. I dunno, we all like to think there's an argument to be made against it, but I'm not so sure. At first glance, it doesn't appear that there is a strong case in either direction.

NO. Tua looked friggin terrible man. Long windup, slow delivery, low velocity ball. All things that don't spell winner in the NFL. I don't want him anywhere near our squad.

Rebuilds done right don't happen quickly. We are currently on course for an EXTREMELY fast rebuild. 2021 is the last year where our cap is in a bad place. Let's not screw that up by pushing the pain into 2022. We were able to compete in 2020 with no offseason, a new staff and a weak roster. The roster WILL get better this year. Maybe not as fast as we'd like, but it WILL improve. Our staff will have an actual offseason to get things right. The staff will now have actual NFL experience. We aren't talking playoffs here, but with the right signings, draft picks and a healthy CMC we could win 7 games next year. Maybe 8 at a push. To me, that would be outstanding progress.

The only way I see Watson here is if Watson himself says "I don't want to go there" to pretty much every other team that makes an offer. That's his actual leverage in the situation, invoking his no trade clause if he doesn't like the team he's supposed to go to.

And Samuel, Curtis.

The problem with Curtis is you now have a conundrum. Was 2020 an outlier? His catch rate prior to last year was around 55%, but in 2020 it was 79%. That's a HUGE change, and you have to figure out whether that's sustainable or not. Had he continued his career catch rate last year, he would have caught 53 balls for 592 yards and no one would be talking about testing free agency. He'd be an easy retention, but would we even want him? Curtis knew it was a contract year. Did he play out of his skin specifically because of that? Will he drop back off to his career rates next year? You have to look at the body of work in my mind. You can't base a contract off of one year. This is what we all crucified Marty for. It's a tough call, but I think you let Samuel walk unless he demonstrates that he REALLY wants to be here.

Based on what? His BMI is higher than Trevor, so you're not talking about some toothpick of a prospect. He had the one shoulder injury that he played with since high school, had it fixed and has played two seasons since at a high level. Seems like grasping at straws for a reason not to like the kid. I don't think we have a chance in hell of getting him, but I really like him.