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Someone else posted this the other day. While it's nice to see any metric where the Panthers grade first, this one is really flawed unfortunately. In this system, you'd get rated way more highly for drafting a 4th round prospect in the 6th round than drafting a presumed top 5 pick in the 2nd round. A better system would look at the difference in values on a trade chart (like Chase Stuart) comparing where a player was projected or ranked vs actually drafted. The Panthers would still look pretty good, just not #1

I think we're seeing a general shift in front offices' pholosophies. Right or not, there's a big push to prioritize a transcendent star qb above all else. The idea of a solid starter/game manager headlining a complete team has been devalued. Look no further than San Francisco's trade of 3 1sts for the opportunity to draft Trey Lance, Cleveland throwing historic guaranteed money and a bajillion premium picks to get Watson, or Denver giving up a bunch of picks including a top 10 of their own that could've gone towards a qb, to take Russell Wilson. When it boils down to it, most overwhelmingly felt like the chance one of this year's qb class making the leap to stardom was quite low. And if that's the case, why invest a premium pick? Wide receivers are going for $25 million per year and the hit rate for a wr in rounds 1-2 of at least turning into a decent starter is far greater than a qb. Doesnt make much sense to sacrifice a premium draft pick to roll the dice on a qb prospect when the consensus seems to be Baker Mayfield, who can likely be had for peanuts right now, might be their realistic ceiling. Meanwhile in the 3rd or later, where any draft pick is 50/50 at best to become a meaningful starter, the 5-10% chance that rookie qb prospect might play to a high level suddenly becomes a reasonable gamble.

On face value, the team trading up twice, including using a future day 2 pick, doesn't quite scream Fitterer, who has been better known for trading back and amassing picks.

I'm definitely not opposed to rolling the dice on Willis as long as the cost is reasonable. Something like our 4th and Robby Anderson to a wr desperate team to get back into the latter half of the 2nd could make sense for both teams.

The last time the Panthers took a qb in the 2nd round who had a 1st round grade: Jimmy Clausen.

Probably best to acknowledge we have no idea how long these qbs will last. Pretty sure you'd have laughed if someone said Malik Willis would be available in the middle of the 2nd. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Howell is there at our original 4th round pick. People have clearly way overvalued this qb class relatively to NFL front offices.

At the same time, after drafting Joe Thomas, they spent 3 1st round picks on Qbs over the next 7 years. Those picks: Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel. So really we'll probably turn ourselves into the old Browns either way.

Fair points. The way I see it, we have two huge needs: LT and QB. This draft class is notable for having memorably elite LT prospects while the QB class is amongst the weakest of the past several years. It's one thing if you have a top 5 grade on a LT vs a mid-1st on a QB. But most mocks have either Neal or Ekwonu there at 6, whom many thought either could go #1 before the Jags resigned Robinson, whereas arguably no one in the QB class would have a solid 1st round grade in a normal year. Just seems like it makes sense to go with the safe pick and figure out qb another way. I also don't really trust the staff to figure who is the diamond in the rough in this qb class after their assessment of Darnold. Hopefully we get a top pick in 2023 but if not, plenty of teams have shown this year in particular there are other ways to find a qb (Indy, Seattle, Cleveland, etc)

If we're being honest with ourselves, which scenario seems more likely? A) Corral demonstrates he's a franchise qb, plays early and at minimum puts us into playoff contention, after which we gladly give up a 2023 pick in the teens or B) We fail to improve in year 1 with Corral and Rhule still at the helm, end up shipping a top 2 pick to Philly next year, letting slip Bryce Young/CJ Stroud/whoever emerges as the cream of the crop from our grasp and are stuck no better than we were at qb. I mean, scenario B seems at least twice as likely, or is it just me?

Let's throw away the pitchforks guys. ESPN had an article on it too. Sounds like he was going 12 over the speed limit around noon and was pulled over. Then on unclear grounds (probably being black in SC), they searched him and found a gun and some marijuana. How that translates to unlawful carrying of a handgun and intent to distribute is really unclear but certainly reeks of trumped up charges. Yeah he's not blameless. But it also doesn't sound as egregious as some of you are making it.

Mocks are increasingly having the Jags take Hutchinson and Detroit take Willis at 2, which seems to consistently leave Cross and usually Neal too available at 6. The scary thought is the Panthers falling into that scenario but opting for Pickett. *shudders*

It's a bit rich to say Watson is the victim based on this affidavit created by the defense team. You have to realize a couple things. A) In this kind of he said, she said case, particularly when the "he" is a super rich and powerful guy with tons more resources, the women rarely get justice. They know that. If you are that woman and everyone is saying that and it gets floated "Well look we know you won't win in court but we can make him hurt with his checkbook and at least then you can get a little payback. Better than nothing, right?" Would you be a money grubbing hussy for even listening to that line of thought? That's effectively what a couple of those are suggesting. B) This lists a small number of the 22 people in the case. Is there a chance 2 or 3 of them heard about the case, gladly did whatever Watson wanted for extra money and thought, "Hell yeah, I'll jump in for an extra payday." It's equally stupid to think there wouldn't be at least one person trying to take advantage of the situation as thinking that a couple people doing it for money means inevitably all 22 were. At the end of the day, it's pretty much accepted that Watson seeks out women he's paying for legal services with the hopes of getting sex out of them. That's wrong no matter how you spin it and his position of power over them makes it incredibly unethical. The only question is whether he did anything bad enough to be criminal and that's where the he said, she said comes in. But even in the best case scenario, treating him like some poor pariah who deserves our profuse apologies is kind of pathetic if you ask me.

Sounds like Linderbaum is akin to Quenton Nelson, a surefire, best prospect in years at a less valuable OL position. Interestingly, Nelson was also drafted at pick 6. No one really questions that selection now. Granted, Nelson had to become a perennial 1st team all pro to really make it worth it and he has. That's a high bar. I'd be ok with Linderbaum; he'd be ultra safe and undoubtedly make our team and offensive line better. But if an OT worthy of a top 10 pick is there, I think you have to take him. The positional value and scarcity of LTs is just too much. The salary allotted to the 6th pick is comparable to a top 10 C but amounts to maybe half of what it costs to sign a top 10 LT; plus free agent centers worthy of signing come around far more often than LTs. In a perfect world, if you're taking Linderbaum, you trade down a few spots, draft him and get a sorely needed 3rd. But a lot would have to align perfectly for that: a willing trade partner presenting a good offer and the gamble that he's still available at that slot. And would also have to hope Christensen is equipped to handle LT in that scenario.

Yeah I was about to make the same point on the kickoff. You can't kick a touch back with 13 seconds. Forcing a return would run at least 3 or 4 seconds off the clock and then KC only has time for 1 play before a fg or hail mary. Unfortunate. I'm sure McDermott is going to lose a lot of sleep second guessing himself on the end of that game.

Is there any doubt that whoever wins the coin toss will win the game?

Butker's missed fg and xp looming large with a 3 point deficit.

Well a minute and 3 timeouts for Buffalo. Kind of feel like that wasn't the worst thing that could have happened. Seems like a field goal to send it to overtime was best case scenario for Buffalo. They're not stopping Kansas City for 4 downs.

After a boring wildcard weekend, this is an awesome divisional round

If you don't like the 2-7 game, just don't watch it. All it does is force the 2 seed to play rather than get a free pass to the divisional round. You still have the same 3-6 and 4-5 match up you have had for years. The real benefit to having a 7th seed isn't getting an extra game in the playoffs. It's that way more teams have something to play for the last few weeks of the regular season. The top teams are having to go all out week 18 instead of resting their starters to get that #1 seed/bye week and middle of the pack teams desperately clinging to their playoff lives scrambling for that last wildcard spot rather being able to tank out starting week 15 because they're already eliminated.

No way San Fran takes Darnold straight up for Garroppolo. JG's contract is not guaranteed. If they wanted the cap space, they're not trading for Darnold's guaranteed $19 million. They're better off straight up cutting him, but they won't have to do that. They could easily net a 3rd for him but even a conditional 7th is better than trading for Darnold.

Steelers are giving off major Panthers offense vibes.

Deebo was just named 1st team all pro at receiver. CMC has missed 23 games over the last 2 seasons. It's not that outrageous of a sentiment. Honestly I think we're best served to use him like the Niners use Deebo. Might help him stay on the field and still be a dangerous weapon.

Aaron Rodgers is 0-3 against the 49ers in the playoffs. Do you not remember them getting completely smoked the last time they played, with the Niners getting what seemed like 500 rushing yards en route to their super bowl appearance? Was also involved in the legendary Kaepernick game where he had 200+ yards each passing and rushing.

And in 2 plays, Dallas ends up with better field position than if San Fran had gone for the 4th down and got stuffed.

4th and 1 from midfield, up 6, with one of the best rushing offenses in the NFL and you punt? That's a major NFL bad karma move.