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I think he is far more likely to be the #1 pick right now. However I think this will be regarded as a weak QB class provided there aren't meteroic rises of people (Jayden Daniels, Joe Burrow)

Completely new regimen in town, I think it's still unlikely to happen, but if Bryce does not show improvement this year, we are the worst football team again, and there is a QB taking number one overall I would not rule this out

fwiw the patriots were going to draft XL if we didn't source:

One thing I keep coming back to is: edge is a very difficult position to find quality players at. It's entirely possible outside of the top three guys we had all of the other edges rated very low. overdrafting one of them is how you get DJ Johnson

Oh I thought he meant Roman Wilson lol

very fair and would have been a good choice with your draft

that's fair and that's my point, this is actually pretty hard to do in real time! It's easy for people to be negative of the GMs in hindsight but when you actually go through the process yourself it gets much harder

figured it out: this guy just s.hit his pants

with all the negativity right now, I think a fun exercise would be to see if you were GM who would you have picked. It's too complicated to go back through all the trades so let's just pretend those are set in stone. Here's how I would have done it: This will be fun to bump in a year when I am completely wrong about all of this. FWIW this is not a complaining thread it's more of an exercise to show that for all of you negativity it's actually really hard to nail drafts in real time. 32- Ladd 46- AD Mitchell 72- Christian Haynes 101- Theo Johnson 157- Caelen Carson 200- Cedric Johnson 240- Beau Brade

And I may end my panthers fandom if we end up drafting Ewers. He has a LONG way to go to be worthy of a first round pick much less a top 5 selection

Looks rough right now, I highly suspect Beck will be the consensus 1 by seasons end, Shadeur will go round 1. The real question is who is the riser? Every year someone has an astrnomical rise: a few that come to mind recently are Jayden Daniels, Joe Burrow and even Kenny Pickett to an extent. Who is that guy next year

I agree with you there, and I think passing on Center is one reason I ding this draft. We really need to draft and develop a guy and just keep kicking the can down the road

fair question and I think the XL selection warrants probably it's own thread but I think they are trying to build a complimentary WR room. I really, really liked Ladd but his skill set somewhat redundant with what we already have. In terms of the future it's harder to find true "x" WRs than it is, slot guys

yea I totally agree. The trade is worth it alone for the financial considerations given what WRs make nowadays. Further if we left this draft without a WR we felt good about it would be an F

Could use another CB- Gilmore on a one year deal makes so much sense Could use another edge rusher, although I highly anticipate when we draft ~top3 next year we will be drafting one Center is obviously a position of concern, not because Corbett scares me from a talent perspective but his injuries do

good character guy, will contribute on specials teams, hopefully he has an AJ Klein esque career for us, that would be an absolute win in the 7th round

Corey Lindsey is currently the most expensive center in the NFL at 12.5m per year that would equal the..... approximately the 27th most expensive WR in the league LMAO

lmao seriously, just look at contract values right now. WR has turned into one of the most important positions in the league

Probably not worth it's own thread but I called it. New England was trying to get to 32, so the Bills did us a solid. Traded to us not division rivals. New England was targeting XL

I'm not turning this into a Bryce thread, but I think Canales looked at Bryce and said what does he do best and what are his limitations. Best: throws with anticipation, accurate Limitations: deep ball, escapability We rectify that with huge guards up front to prevent interior pressure and help the run game, bolster the run game, trade for the best separation WR in the NFL (by stats) and draft a Deebo like WR w/ the body type and potential to become a true X/outside ball winner. Like I said the vision is there folks.

Agree a longterm WR corps (assuming all pan out of) X- XL, Z- Dionte, Slot- Mingo; actually meshes very well together the vision is there, whether or not it comes to fruition is a question every team has to ask themselves

Seems pretty clear what they are trying to build to me, a power running game that supports a quick passing game. We signed two huge guards, Canales is known for emphasizing quick throw time, we traded for Dionte Johnson, drafted the best RB in the draft, first pick was a bigger Deebo Samuel and we drafted a receiving TE Power run, play action, quick throws, try to limit third and long.

That being said we were fighting an uphill battle, it's really hard to get a good draft grade without a first round pick much less the first overall pick.

said this before but its a C+/B- for me the trade back with the rams was an A+ Player selection outside of XL, were all pretty "safe" choices. That's not necessarily a bad thing. This team needs players and contributors. If most of them end up having 'fine' NFL careers that will be an absolute win for us. But outside of XL and Wallace I don't see many home run swings, again that's ok. We also get dinged a little in my book for positional value. Felt like we could have gone double dip at WR, CB or Edge in the first four rounds to bump the grade up again. Again I'm not hating on the draft, I just think it was very middle of the road, which may be exactly what we needed.

I hope tepper is reading this thread: You are pathetic, quit ruining our team.