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Cliff better play Mark Williams big minutes now...

All back and forth aside I agree with this completely. Just talking the truth about Darnold in this thread results in no less than half a dozen poo'd posts lmao. You'd think we had actually won something of significance or been to the playoffs with this guy. People are crazy lol. I cannot wait until the draft and free agency has begun.

From my view when combining the highs and the lows he was mediocre at best overall. As another poster pointed out he averaged less than a TD a game over 4 wins and one of those wins we had an historic rushing output from our backfield. That's the best you can hope for from a 25 year old in his prime? We can replace that with any other option in the free agent QB market. That's the rub

Well there's not much to engage with if you're going to remove that game to make your argument look better. Sorry bud the world doesn't work that way and the Carolina Panthers aren't running a charity. Enjoy your day!

Yeah clearly it was Adam Gase and Matt Rhule's fault Sam Darnold put up a historically bad passer rating against the Saints. You think we win 11 games with him? Insane.

It's wild anyone wants to risk the farm on a QB his size in the top 10 after seeing Matt Corral ragdolled in the preseason. Bama fans...

Those 4 wins were more due to the pieces around him and the losses highlight his limitations the same as they did in New York. When he absolutely has to win you games with that arm talent he can't. Look at all the team had to do to put them in position to defeat an Andy Dalton led Saints team coached by Dennis Allen. If you're Frank Reich and Scott Fitterer you leave no stone unturned. Would you settle for Sam if your job and career were on the line?

I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for his interviews with us. But I feel like I can safely assume no part of that interview process involved him declaring he can fix Sam Darnold. Do you ever try to put yourself in anyone else's shoes? Him and Fitterer know this is their last big chance. And you think Darnold is going to spoil that for them? Come on man wake up.

That's quite literally wanting more from him than he's capable of doing and why people want to look at other options. He is not a bridge QB under any circumstances. He could run a few drives in games here and there but he cannot start you games and keep you in any level of contention.

Fields wins with his legs he can't throw and he's one of the leagues worst passers. Darnold wins with his legs and he's Sam Newton. Again these people are just plain biased and nuts.

I know you aren't saying he's our future but you and others at least in my view seem to give him the benefit of the doubt you don't offer to other QB's. There are other backup tier signal callers we can consider Sam is not the only free agent available. Reich and now Fitterer both have the added and IMO very important perspective of having learned from mistakes of giving highly touted yet underperforming quarterbacks teetering on bust status chance after chance. I think they will look to begin anew. You have to turn the page from mistakes.

I got no beef at all with Sam the person. Said that many times. It's the looney tunes here who anoint him to a level he clearly is nowhere near. He had the one gaffe on that podcast which was pretty foolish and rather tone deaf to say when considering how many chances he's gotten. But overall he's kept his head down and he definitely hasn't gone on social media trying to clap back at Panthers fans like we owe him something. All that being said we can find a better QB to fit the bill for what we would be asking of him in 2022.

The receivers and backs were fine when Sam was riding high behind a potent running game. When he actually has to win with his arm and he looks bad like always suddenly we have no talent. These folks are delusional and clearly the kind of fans who were rabid Kyle Allen groupies. You can't reason with someone who considers the final game against New Orleans a real game winning drive. They don’t care about actually winning big games or being in the playoffs they just want a QB who fits into their box. Well I cannot fuging wait until the draft when Fitterer and Reich swing for the fences.

He had 43 passing yards and 2 picks. No way in hell you or that other guy would be celebrating that if PJ Walker was the QB.

Oh wow you're counting that and taking a victory lap? Why don't you check those notes and read us back his stat line. How does a 25 year old in the prime of his life get outplayed by Andy Dalton? Andy Dalton!

Guys I really don't think the diet had much to do with his throwing arm falling apart. Maybe some level as far as healing from injuries but his style of play was never going to last through his thirties he could have eaten 3 steaks a day it doesn't matter.

Hey Mr. Nuance. Darnold has not had a game winning drive in five years and he's gotten more chances than some other QB's have. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

My guy you followed Sam Darnold to a new team take a seat. We've been watching abysmal QB play for years we know it when we see it if you don't like it the door is always unlocked you don't need to say anything you can just go.

You're a Carr believer eh? That's nice.

Fitterer can't afford another losing season due to picking the wrong QB and neither can Reich. Unless Sam Darnold accepts a very bare league minimum contract his days should be numbered here. Would you risk your job and second chance that doesn't often happen on a QB who finished the season with the worst passer rating in franchise history?

I can't fathom how anyone could look at the Reich hire and what transpired in Indianapolis and come away thinking "yeah Sam Darnold is definitely going to be here this season".

Shocking development.

Yeah and some folks will forever see Cam for his win/loss record beginning with the Pittsburgh game in 2018. Anything he did before negated. It is what it is though.

And people really wanted round 2 of another Ron Rivera