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More than generous. It's detached from reality. Which is what pretty much all each of these takes in defense of him have become. Fully detached from reality.

There is the concept of dealing in fairy tales and then there is dealing in real world realities. You cannot come away thinking Bryce Young is anything but one of the worst starting QB's in the league if you are basing your conclusion on verifiable data across all of his 31 career games that lines up with what you are seeing with your own two eyes if you are dealing in a reality based discussion. It is that simple.

Right. The crazy thing is how much the narrative has shifted from the spring of 2023. I remember back when the comparisons to Stroud before the draft were going in wild directions. There was one discussion in particular that people had taken and ran with that Bryce had the highest tight window throw % based off some random metric from who knows where. Which to me the tape doesn't lie. CJ Stroud was throwing heaters into absurdly small windows at times while Bryce was tossing up prayers to guys with 2 or more yards on their defender and sometimes still underthrew it. At the end of the day people have to swallow that lump in their throat and begin accepting Bryce Young as people previously perceived him was a media creation because he played for Saban and Alabama. If he played anywhere else all of this discussion would be completely different.

The every single little thing has to be perfect for him to have marginal success rationale is beyond the pale. This guy was supposed to be a "magician" off script. That was his bread and butter before the draft. Now we need top talent top coaching top to bottom perfection every single time guys lineup etc. These people are insane.

I'm glad someone pointed this out. It shows how much of an echo chamber effect has taken hold for some regarding Bryce. Legitimately every single one of these people would be clowning on him 24/7 if he was the starting QB for any of our division rivals. If you need any confirmation of that. One of the biggest most outspoken Bryce defenders recently within the last week spent multiple pages gleefully celebrating Caleb Williams struggles.

The Brees comparisons were insanity from the start. I never cared for Drew one iota but the guy is a hall of famer. Bryce's actual comp in terms of ceiling has been Tua. And well. Let's just say that was a bad omen. Because more often than not he's been anywhere between mid to horrific and the complete opposite of good in the playoffs anyway. We just need to throw another dart at QB in the 2026 draft and keep it pushing.

It would be just like that awful pass he threw into blanket coverage that got picked off against the Texans in preseason. But because it was a free play it was fine. The fact he even threw that in the first start of his regular season is very concerning at the least. His decision making has not improved. He's supposed to be a super processor.

I think you just can't handle the truth. It's fine. That's life. Good luck.

Minnesota was on some bountygate poo that drive. Gifting the Bears points.

That's plainly out.

You're not wrong sadly.

Ben Johnson finding out what it's actually like coaching the Bears. You got what you wanted. McCarthy has some swagger about him. He's not a milquetoast and seems to motivate his teammates. Must be nice.

I've been told by some here that Adam Thielen has exceptional hands.

Brock Purdy is making 53 million per season. Geno Smith is making more per season than Darnold. Rodgers wasn't going to sign there with a 10th overall pick breathing down his neck. He saw what happened to Cousins in Atlanta. I don't know why you're arguing with me like I'm pounding the table for Darnold. All I'm saying is they had other options and 30 million a season for a starting QB is not that much anymore. Dak Prescott is the highest paid QB this year with 60 million. Furthermore. Even Daniel Jones went out and blew the doors off the Dolphins on Sunday. The Vikings have one of the two best WR's in the league. They just made a dumb decision.

If you believe that grade you might as well believe in Santa Claus too. Try this. https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/nfl-week-1-recap-bryce-young-panthers/

Somebody did someone a personal favor with that grade. I have to wonder how much money Tepper has tied up in PFF since we are hiring their guys now.

McCarthy is terrible. Darnold was set to make BIG bank but blew it. He is making basically the same as Mayfield this year. And below them are Fields Jones and Rodgers. https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback

Yeah they legitimately might as well have kept Darnold at a lower cost.

I hope Adam Thielen is having a nice time tonight.

Sympathies to the kids.

Interesting take with actual data from a neutral observer. https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/nfl-week-1-recap-bryce-young-panthers/

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_adj_net_yds_per_att_career.htm Our guy has played 31 games and isn't even listed.

19 passing yards. Rough outing for JJ.

McCarthy is very meh.

Lamar Jackson has the arm talent to put his WR in that position. People can argue his playoff record. But his physical talent can't be denied. At some point you guys just have to face the music that our QB has a mediocre arm at absolute best. Even routine throws are consistently 50/50 balls.