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Also if you begin a comment about the only MVP in franchise history like this but obsessively carry water for Bryce Young I just want you to know I'm giving you hella side eye.

I didn't say any of that so I have no idea what you're so agitated about.

We had the 32nd passing offense with Adam Thielen at 1k receiving yards in 2023 just to be clear. Maybe he just isn't the player at this stage in his career that some of you wanted him to be.

Ginn dropped a lot of footballs. Often multiple times in the same games. And not just contested passes we're talking wide open in his hands. Cam kept going at him. He resurrected Ginn's career. That's what a #1 pick is supposed to do. Elevate those around them.

Imagine if back in 2010 some folks were trying to fight others online over whether Jimmy Clausen was a starting QB. That's where we're at

On the surface given our struggles I get why people would initially hear this and be apprehensive. But we do need players being vocal and being confident and speaking up. That is what builds a culture. Especially when it involves young players getting opportunities which was not always a thing with past coaches. But the head coach still needs to assert authority and take ownership of his group and make smart decisions on gamedays. It's gonna be a long season so we might as well just let it play out and revisit this later.

False. During his best statistical season at Alabama, Bryce completed only 36.1% of passes longer than 20 yards. For comparison, his two predecessors Mac Jones and Tua had respectively completed 58% and 48.6% of throws longer than 20 yards.

PFF has it's uses for certain position groups but it shouldn't be seen as gospel. Sometimes you just have to look at what you're seeing with your own two eyes.

If it were possible to have negative swag somehow Bryce Young could achieve that.

Not the same. Honestly it is disrespectful to even try and make this comparison. People hated him even after we started winning and competing for and in the playoffs. Cam Newton was a driving force in changing the culture of the team for the better. He was also Rookie of the Year and League MVP. He also didn't get any of these extremely ticky tacky roughing the passer calls that QB's are getting today. And there were times where other players were trying to literally take him out of games. It's desperation to keep trying to drag him into this conversation. It's also cringe. Our starting QB isn't Mr. Irrelevant making league minimum. He's the 4th highest paid player on the roster.

The propensity for turning the ball over without the arm talent. We wish Bryce Young had Jameis's arm.

Refs will be in their pocket. Always have to account for that. They are 20th in rush defense. They currently have the worst pass defense in the league. I mean I want to say even Bryce could at least put up 250 or more passing yards given that but man he looked BAD when the pocket collapsed against Miami and they had the 20th pass defense. Just can't expect to consistently get clean pockets like that in this league even with the better OL's. I'd say with this being a home game hopefully our guys will be motivated regardless. We certainly seem to play much better at home. We'll see.

Way too early to tell. We have a ton of cap invested in the OL and we need to see how that group looks against better competition than the worst teams in the league. Same with the defense. Beyond that I can agree that the recent draft picks are showing promise. But there's still an elephant looming large. The QB room. Yeah we're squeaking by teams like the Dolphins but as we get further into our schedule and play teams that have better rosters better QB's better defenses and good coaching staffs we're going to be talking about these things a good bit most likely. Just pace yourselves folks.

Drew Brees and Bryce Young have nothing in common other than Drew was a little bit taller. Other than that even when Brees was near the end he still had a better arm than Bryce Young. And Drew had a different physical build. In his prime it's not even close. Completely different players. It's the same with people saying early on Bryce was a smaller Russell Wilson. Completely different players physically. Both Brees and Wilson clearly regularly hit the weight room through their careers as well. Bryce Young has pretty much zero physical traits and he won't even try to put in some work in the weight room. Three years in a row he shows up looking exactly the same. People can talk about his frame and this and that and in some ways there is validity to it but let's be real there's no excuse for him not to even attempt given his aforementioned limitations. To not even try is the sign of someone who does not want to be great. Which is the complete opposite of what many people had him billed as before the draft. It's inexcusable.

I agree and we should leave no stone unturned in seeking actual competition in the QB room. I would say it should be a given and an automatic assumption that we will do that but sadly we cannot assume that will 100% be the case with the history of decisions by our brain trust.

No it is not but without that you need to be incredibly savvy from the pocket and have a high football IQ and the ability to diagnose and react on the fly. That was supposed to be Bryce Young. And he has neither of those qualities.

Hey you got any updates on the Texans? Last I heard you were dunking on them for being 0-3.

Russell and Lance didn't get nearly as many chances and excuses with the team that drafted them. 34 games and still arguing it's up in the air is just crazy talk let's be real.

You aren't any less inconsistent than anyone else here get real. And you've already declared Bryce Young a bust twice. You were up first thing this morning trying to fight people. The time you spend here is more unhealthy than anyone else clearly. Is this what you do on other social media? Try to get people to fight you then flail about them spending time responding to you? I feel sorry for you. I hope things get better!

Every single QB since Cam was released the first time has been bad mouthed. And even he got the smoke the second time around. All this flailing about criticism of the QB is just performative. And as I keep saying. Baker and Sam both have significant physical talent. All they had to do was take a step or two in the mental aspects and that's what they did. And that's why so many teams take chances on draft prospects with all the physical tools.

This is bottom of the barrel trolling. You insinuate others don't have a life or significant others yet this is how you spend your early mornings on a Monday. Use that smartphone you're on to find a therapist.

99% of the huddle said Darnold and Mayfield sucked here. Don't sit around pretending like you wanted them. Nobody is going to shut up. You can yammer on about people being old while we know you're just as old as everyone else. Nobody cares. If this is how you spend your mornings I feel sorry for you. Good luck bud!

8 am trying to fight people online lol Get some help.

Our owner is far too impatient and impulsive for that. I tried to be kind and give you grace but you just don't know how to interact with others apparently. You already quit the team once when Cam left now you simp for a Jimmy Clausen clone who you've already declared a bust twice in two years. Why don't YOU leave?