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Apparently Shi smith Burned Burris at OTA today on one on one's. Any truth to that? or can anyone post the video. Lol im at work

A look at how the Carolina Panthers are using their money for the 2021 season This offseason, several teams around the league kicked a lot of money down the road, used voidable years, and restructured some contracts to be able to get under the NFL's 2021 salary cap which is set for $182.5 million. The Carolina Panthers restructured the contracts of RB Christian McCaffrey, LB Shaq Thompson, and C Matt Paradis and placed the franchise tag on RT Taylor Moton. With so many transactions being made, we thought it would be a good idea to revisit where things are with the Panthers' cap space and to also show where exactly the money is being spent. Note: The following figures do not include signing bonuses or any other types of bonuses/incentives. Cap space: $17.5 million (via OverTheCap) Dead money: $42.6 million (via OverTheCap) Biggest 2021 cap hits: RT Taylor Moton - $13.7 (franchise tag) WR Robby Anderson - $8 million S Juston Burris - $2.7 million WR DJ Moore - $2 million DT DaQuan Jones - $2 million OFFENSE (via Spotrac) QB Sam Darnold - $920k RB Christian McCaffrey - $990k (restructured) WR Robby Anderson - $8 million WR DJ Moore - $2 million WR David Moore - $990k TE Dan Arnold - $920k LT Cameron Erving - $990k LG Pat Elflein - $990k C Matt Paradis - $990k (restructured) RG John Miller - $990k RT Taylor Moton - $13.7 (franchise tag) Cap hits by position (starters only): QB: $920K, RB: $990K, WR: $10.9M, TE: $920K, OL: $17.6M, Total: $31.3M DEFENSE (via Spotrac) DT Derrick Brown - $1.6 million DT DaQuan Jones - $2 million DE Brian Burns - $1.7 million DE Yetur Gross-Matos - $982k LB Haason Reddick - $990k LB Shaq Thompson - $990k (restructured) LB Jermaine Carter Jr. - $920k CB Jaycee Horn - not made public CB Donte Jackson - $2.4 million S Jeremy Chinn - $848k S Juston Burris - $2.7 million Cap hits by position (starters only): DL: $6.2M, LB: $2.9M, CB: $2.4M, S: $3.5M, Total: $15M (doesn't include Horn) Link: https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/where-is-the-panthers-money-being-spent-2021

Im just glad we didn't let him go BEFORE seeing what our new incoming WRs can do. I'd rather us know who his replacement is, rather than ending up searching for him midseason or next off-season. I mean i do believe Terrace can replace him, but injuries could change that (he has a pretty lengthy injury history). But they are taking the right steps in trying to ensure the young man has a long career. Pretty optimistic about Shi and the new David Moore as well. Just glad we get to see how they fit before putting all of our trust n them to fill in for what robby can do. I think next year will be a good year to see how our front office goes about handling contracts. Hopefully they are a lot smarter with they're money. I think we've already seen how much we've upgraded when it comes to drafting. Let's hope for the same when it comes to handling our cap and giving the right players the right contracts.

Yeah hopefully this changes in the Rhule era

The rarity of the Panthers giving contract extensions to the players they draft When rookies are drafted they automatically receive four-year contracts. During those first four seasons teams have every incentive to keep the player on the roster and develop them into long-term contributors. Rookies enter the league with high upside and low cap hits while front offices don’t want to carry the stigma of drafting prospects who turn into busts. But let’s look beyond those four-year rookie contracts and evaluate the Panthers ability to draft players then keep them on the roster for five or more seasons. These are the players Carolina drafted, developed, then retained over the long term. When looking at the data, it’s rare to find players the Panthers kept around after their first four seasons. Of the 53 players the Panthers selected between 2009 and 2016, only 10 were still on Carolina’s roster after the end of their four-year rookie contracts. That’s a 19 percent hit rate for extending players into Year 5. But of those 10 who survived in Carolina into Year 5, four of them were gone one year later. This means only six of 53 players the Panthers drafted between 2009 and 2016 lasted in Charlotte through six professional seasons: Shaq Thompson, Trai Turner, Kawann Short, Luke Kuechly, Amini Silatolu, and Cam Newton. Here are all of the players the Panthers drafted between 2009 and 2016 divided between those who were still on Carolina’s roster in Year 5 and those who weren’t. Asterisks denote players who stayed in Carolina for Year 5 but were gone by Year 6. Players in bold weren’t on Carolina’s roster in Year 5 but still went on to have meaningful careers elsewhere. 2016 Five or more - None Four or less - DT Vernon Butler (1-30), CB James Bradberry (2-62), CB Daryl Worley (3-77), CB Zack Sanchez (5-141), TE Beau Sandland (7-252) 2015 Five or more - LB Shaq Thompson (1-25), OT Daryl Williams* (4-102) Four or less - WR Devin Funchess (2-41), LB David Mayo (5-169), RB Cameron Artis-Payne (5-174) 2014 Five or more - G Trai Turner (3-92) Four or less - WR Kelvin Benjamin (1-28), DE Kony Ealy (2-60), S Tre Boston (4-128), DB Bene Benwikere (5-148), RB Tyler Gaffney (6-204). (Note: Tre Boston spent his first three seasons in Carolina, got waived in 2017, then returned in 2019). 2013 Five or more - DT Star Lotulei* (1-14), DT Kawann Short (2-44) Four or less - OL Edmund Kugbila (4-108), LB AJ Klein (5-148), RB Kenjon Barner (6-182) 2012 Five or more - LB Luke Kuechly (1-9), G Amini Silatolu (2-40) Four or less - DE Frank Alexander (4-103), WR Joe Adams (4-104), CB Josh Norman (5-143), P Brad Nortman (6-207), DB DJ Campbell (7-216) 2011 Five or more - QB Cam Newton (1-1) Four or less - DT Terrell McClain (3-65), DT Sione Fua (3-97), DB Brandon Hogan (4-98), WR Kealoha Pilares (5-132), LB Lawrence Wilson (6-166), OL Zachary Williams (6-203), OL Lee Ziemba (7-244) 2010 Five or more - DE Greg Hardy* (6-175) Four or less - QB Jimmy Clausen (2-48), WR Brandon LaFell (2-78), WR Armanti Edwards (3-89), LB Eric Norwood (4-124), WR David Gettis (6-198), DB Jordan Pugh (6-202), QB Tony Pike (6-204), DB RJ Standord (7-223), DB Robert McClain (7-249) 2009 Five or more - CB Captain Munnerlyn* (7-216) Four or less - DE Everett Brown (2-43), DB Sherrod Martin (2-59), DT Corvey Irvin (3-93), RB Mike Goodson (4-111), RB Tony Fiametta (4-128), G Duke Robinson (5-163) Something interesting to note is the round in which the 10 players who stayed more than four years in Carolina were drafted. Four players were first rounders, which is to be expected, but then it gets a bit surprising. Of the remaining six, there were two second round selections (Short and Silatolu), then one in the third (Turner), fourth (Williams), sixth (Hardy), and seventh (Munnerlyn). Over these eight drafts the Panthers selected 15 players in the second and third rounds and only Short, Silatolu, and Turner survived beyond their rookie contracts. That’s not a great long-term hit rate for players taken in Rounds 2-3 where teams should be able to regularly find solid starters. In fairness to the front office, they have to work within the realities of the salary cap. All indications are the Panthers front office would have liked to retain guys like James Bradberry and Curtis Samuel but they got better offers elsewhere. Bradberry landed a 3-year, $43.5 million deal with the Giants while Samuel signed with the Washington Football Team for 3-years, $34.5 million. But that’s just the going rate for difference-making talent in the primes of their careers like Bradberry, a 2020 Pro Bowler as a Giant, the versatile Samuel who just produced over 1,000 scrimmage yards and is getting better every year. Smart front offices not only draft long-term talent, they also prudently manage the salary cap to be able to retain that talent over the long term. Sometimes when rookies are drafted we ask ourselves if they can be Day 1 starters or if they can contribute in their first season. That’s important, no doubt, but so is longevity. Hopefully the Panthers new front office not only drafted players in 2021 who can make an impact this season, but they can keep them in Carolina to do the same in Year 5 and beyond. Link: https://www.derp/2021/6/1/22461754/the-rarity-of-the-panthers-giving-contract-extensions-to-the-players-they-draft

Idk about top 5. Top 10 is already taking a leap. Maybe top 5 in 2022 if the defense continues to improve. But with a rookie CB out there in the CB1 spot, Plus im a lil on the fence about phil snow. It might not be a prove it year for him, but he will have to show me something. I think definite top 15, highly likely top 10, and very unlikely but possible top 5. Nothing is impossible.

Loved very second. I just hope fitterer's son doesn't take up basketball lol But a great production and it was great to see how well our front office looked working together. Seems like they had a plan and stuck to it. Draft room was ran a lot smoother than you would probably expect from a lot of first year guys at their position.

Maybe Darnold shows his ass and goes off vs. Buccs... Maybe that continues and maybe it doesn't bother Tom because well he aint gone lose sleep over us, but maybe it gets to the other guy Kyle Trask (who maybe gets the start in 2023 or maybe Brady says fug him and stays). I know this says 2021 lol im just throwing a random (probably unlikely) scenario out there Honestly, with our coaching staff and the culture they're building... I'd say it'll be exactly what @Mr. Scotsaid, maybe our rival is who we're playing that week. Take it a game at a time. That's the kinda coach Rhule is.

I think the only thing that will limit us from being top ten, is age and injury. Lot of young guys and most the veterans we brought in have an injury history.

Willie McGinest (Former NFL LB) Makes Bold Statement on Panthers' Defense During a recent segment on the NFL Network, former NFL stars Joe Thomas and Willie McGinest were discussing Sam Darnold's potential with the Panthers. During that segment, McGinist showed some love to the Panthers' defense and believes they could be one of the best units in the league. "The defense, they'll have a top 10 defense. They'll be really good. There's a lot of No. 1 picks - five of them I think and a lot of high draft choices on that side of the ball." Over the years, the Panthers have drafted some really good defensive players. From Julius Peppers to Thomas Davis to Luke Kuechly to Shaq Thompson to Brian Burns and several others. Once Matt Rhule took over as the head coach last offseason, that side of the ball needed to be addressed at every level. They did so by making all seven of their selections defensive players. At the top of last year's class, they snagged defensive lineman Derrick Brown and safety Jeremy Chinn. Both had solid rookie seasons and look to be very important pieces for the Panthers to build around. In this year's draft, the Panthers went with a defensive player again in the 1st round and took South Carolina cornerback, Jaycee Horn. The Panthers may be the youngest team in the NFL but they have a defense that has a ton of talent at all three levels. Just take a look at the projected starting 11 and where they were selected when they were drafted. DE Brian Burns - 1st round, 16th overall (2019) DT Derrick Brown - 1st round, 7th overall (2020) DT DaQuan Jones - 4th round, 112th overall (2014) DE Yetur Gross-Matos - 2nd round, 38th overall (2020) LB Shaq Thompson - 1st round, 25th overall (2015) LB Denzel Perryman - 2nd round, 48th overall (2015) LB Haason Reddick - 1st round, 13th overall (2017) CB Jaycee Horn - 1st round, 8th overall (2021) CB Donte Jackson - 2nd round, 55th overall (2018) S Jeremy Chinn - 2nd round, 64th overall (2020) S Juston Burris - 4th round, 118th overall (2016) Link: https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/willie-mcginest-makes-bold-statement-on-panthers-defense

Sadly im at work and can only get excited about the snippets. I will watch after though for sure! Lol ima prolly stay out this thread for the spoilers. I sure hope its good!!!!!

Panthers social media is posting snippets (I saw a few videos on the instagram page.

Sam Darnold just wasn't one of those shine in the dark QB's. Plain and Simple. Deshaun Watson (no im not here to argue the case for trading for him again) may have not have had the exact situation as Sam, but you can definitely say he shined in the dark. Some QB's make things happen with what they have. That is the elite talent that is rare. We have to realize that Sam isn't that. He needs a team around around him to win. He needs Elite talent around him. This isn't to bash Sam. Regardless of if you have the shine in the dark QB or not... you still have to build a team around the QB to win a super bowl. With that being said, I like the Sam pickup as it may or may not have allowed us to get a QB and work on building the roster. Rhules main point on missing on fields was that we essentially got two players for one at 8 Sam and Jaycee. Two birds with one stone. Potential QB and roster building player.

The Jets new front office waited, evaluated Sam and the Top QB prospects in the draft, then made their decision. What came of their evaluation of football talent was the #2 selection of Zach Wilson. Now was that decision a mistake, time will tell. But I can tell you that they are and were very confident in making that decision for a reason.

Defense mainly won that game.

It's not lazy thinking. Just some are not as open-minded. There are wayyy more reasons to believe that it won't work. There are guys that were supposed to be the next generational talent and didn't work. There are guys that have had multiple chances in multiple organizations and just didn't work. I mean you have to take your chance as an organization, but you have to have those guys that disagree. If everyone just agreed on everything in here, i mean it wouldn't be fun or interesting. Side note: I just used your post to get my lil rant off lol Every fan would like to think we have our QB for the next 10 years. Just doesn't happen that easy and people know that.

Yeah for sure. If we paid him what he was worth rather than what we thought he could magically become... things might've been different. Maybe not majorly different. But the fanbase likely wouldn't have been as mad.

Lol I didn't quote in it for this exact reason. Wasn't aimed at you. Just a general post. You are heard and understood. Enjoy your day sir. Keep Pounding!

Reposting these articles to start conversations and debates and such... not to bitch about the author that can't even see your message to improve his writing. Not the best article. But something to post.

You could also say it seems improbable that we can coach Sam to be a franchise guy. I think, from what we've seen out of both so far in they're respective careers... Sean has a better chance with Winston than we do with Sam. But that is my personal opinion and its mainly based off Sam in NY. I am not out on Darnold, he does have a solid chance of bouncing back and becoming what many think he can be. I will wait until he completes a full season with us. I am in the group that wants to believe.

I didn't write this article or share this article to troll those that are fans of Sam and/or optimistic of what he can do for this organization this year and beyond. Its a good read and was just a little too long for me to paste into here. Below are the two topics the post goes over: -Sam Darnold’s style of ball may doom Carolina Panthers -Sam Darnold’s typical style doesn’t translate to long-term success -Can Sam Darnold fix his flaws to shine in Carolina? Link: https://sportsnaut.com/sam-darnold-style-of-ball-doom-carolina-panthers/

I think Sam has a better chance of hitting his projected numbers than those two, but he won't have a better season than likely either. I mean I hope he does. As much as we want to say "oh the time in NY doesn't count because off..... (insert excuse)" but those stats/numbers do matter. Nothing has been shown he is "the guy". It's one thing to hope he has success, but to just start placing him in front of guys that has actually produced something (may not have been a lot, they've produced 20x what Sam has). You could argue that he'd likely have a better season than Winston, but with Sean Payton, Alvin and Thomas.. there's also plenty of reason to believe otherwise. And for cousins, he may be an above average QB, but he has consistently been that, and Sam hasn't been that ever. I am a Sam fan but I look at things realistically. Hope he puts in the work and the necessary changes are made.