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He's on a 1yr 2M deal currently (didn't fact check) definitely a rental Maybe if they shutdown CMC for the season we make this move?? His stats through 6 games (appeared in 4) are 25 carries for 97 yds (3.9 ypc) and 2 catches on 5 targets for 8yds

Chiefs also among those teams

They have been characterized as preliminary

Wow deserves its own thread... oh wait...

If that's how you want to view it i guess lol

I think it may have been a quote from Matt Rhule, but again i am not sure so you could be right

Also not sure if this has been posted

Likely similar to how we used Curtis Samuel at times. Not sure how legit it is, saw it on social media and cannot remember the source.

Number 1: 4 Sacks, 7 QB hits This offensive line is flat out terrible. It all started out when on the first play of the game Nate Solder got obliterated by Leonard Floyd. This led to Daniel Jones getting hit mid throw which then led to a fumble. Thankfully the fumble was recovered but it was an embarrassing play by Solder nonetheless. Things got worse after left tackle Andrew Thomas left the game with a leg injury after having it rolled up on a run play. After that it all went downhill. It seemed as if the entire game the NY Giants offensive line was lost. None of them could block in the open field on screens or runs, they couldn’t hold their own on pass blocks, it seemed as if they just couldn’t do anything. This resulted in four sacks and seven QB hits on Daniel Jones, and several quarterback pressures. OL issues... hmmm... sound familiar? Number 2: 50 pass attempts for Daniel Jones/4 turnovers for Jones This is an embarrassing stat for the coaching staff. With the NY Giants only having three active receivers — after Kadarius Toney got knocked out with an ankle injury — and an offensive line that mostly consisted of backups for most of the game, surely they’d at least try to mix things up and not put your QB in a worse situation than he already was in. Lets just say they didn’t do that. Number 3: 365 yards and 5 TD’s allowed This was another awful game for the NY Giants’ defense. The pass coverage looked absolutely awful for the majority of the game with the Giants seemingly sticking with the same zone that has not worked all year. https://gmenhq.com/2021/10/18/ny-giants-blowout-loss-rams-key-stats/3/

Or Ryan Santoso (Well more like a tribute to his mustache)

College to NFL is just different. Even if he is/was an amazing college coach. It takes time for even coaches to adjust and learn. Because coaches in the NFL are always learning more and adding more. They're always trying to find new ways to improve their system. Some coaches just can't keep up with the pace.

Crazy how both were teammates... guess they didn't learn a thing from each other lol

I mean that's mainly what you get on these sites. I hope people don't come here looking for espn type insight.

Because they thought Teddy and execution was the problem and not the front office themselves. I think they got that message this season. Hopefully its a fix that THEY CAN FIX and not a fix that calls for people getting fired.

ouuu ouuu is it a OL?!?!?! No? okay...

True. That is a great example. I think you have to look at the reasons we're rebuilding. And I think when we brought in Matt Rhule, we brought in a guy that is known as a "rebuild coach". But he doesn't have the experience yet maybe to be an NFL Coach. That maybe brought more problems to the rebuild. He is learning. It's hard to teach young players and build a culture when you're learning yourself. He may or may not be the right guy for the job. But me, I am prolly gonna wait a couple more years before im 100% out on the guy. But that's just me. And for Tepper well prior to him being our owner, he was a one of the owners of the Steelers (small percentage and idk if he still owns some or had to give it up). I am also not sure if he had anything to do with any of their success. I don't now what he likes to see in personnel before he hires them. I do think he knows he isn't a football guy like a jerry jones. He may WANT to win and that may cause him to overstep his boundary at times like some thought he would with a trade for Watson.

I agree. Im not here to argue if they are doing a rebuild correctly. Im just here stating that we are in a complete rebuild. Maybe our rebuild is taking longer than it should. But I think that is just because of how they prioritized things. They put the defense first and addressed other holes with "glue and tape" players. Some may stick and some may not. I see them making fixes to OL in year 3 but developing OL takes more than just bringing them in. So that could take another year maybe 2. So yes you can definitely say that even if a 3 year rebuild is how long it is supposed to take, we are behind. We all know how hard it is to hit on a franchise QB. We were more or less praying Darnold was the guy... not expecting.

isn't that what you rebuild for... to build a contender?

Well a proper rebuild would take at least 2-3 years. But you have to add in bad planning, bad draft picks, bad hires of front office personnel... that stuff pushes rebuilds back. IMO rebuilds restart when a new coaching staff comes in. Because you now possibly have a new plan in place. You have a new guy that may like things completely different. Sometimes its good for a franchise and sometimes its bad. Sometimes its a problem with ownership, if they keep hiring the wrong guys. not saying this is what we're going through lol just saying...

As I do agree with you, they traded for young unproven players. You can argue the gilmore trade, but for an injuries guy that will give us some action we are looking forward to what he can teach the most. Also, a lot of trades have been for the defensive side of ball. Not to win us games, but to keep us in games. I fully expect us to go OL and offense heavy next draft/off-season. If we don't... then well idk what to say. We traded for a QB that can act as a younger bridge QB. Darnold is nothing more than a bridge QB with the possibility of being a franchise guy. That was just a gamble. Allows us not to have to draft a rookie and get him killed by our OL by also building a defense that can keep us in games. If Darnold were to be a franchise guy then it would have sped our rebuild up much more... however he hasn't. So here we are. We aren't behind course by any means, but we aren't ahead of course like some thought after going 3-0 either

Being happy and being realistic about a team that just came out of its 1st year in a rebuild are two different things bro.

Alright... apparently we've made a decision... no more bad players.. alright.. Now that we had that discussion we will bring in nothing but bread winners and win a super bowl right? I forgot it was that easy

https://purplepainforums.com/thread/5117/week-vikings-panthers-support-group If you want to visit and see more or start some trouble. Just make sure you represent. lol

It depends. I think at the end of the season... hopefully... our OC will have adjusted and learned a lot from offensive woes coming from the beginning of the season. Hopefully the chemistry on the OL and just in the offense in general would be better at that time. Our defense is only gonna get better with Gilmore teaching/mentoring.