micnificent28

playing a lot of zone.. this isnt working

taylor

i mean we dont need a first rounder qb we could always draft another Clausen, pike, or recently Corral...

I guess hes not a top 5 defensive end. But a top 5 edge... absolutely.

So if we lose 1 more game or so what was all this worth? bashing people who are looking towards the future doesnt make you not a fan it makes you a realist. I was all for tanking but these victories push us out of legit top 5 pick range so whatever win out. However remember this thread when we lose 1 more game or so and are eliminated from contention and forced to pick 15.

i think hes better than a 4.

I love this guy. Hes such a weird body type but plays with heart and fight every touch he gets. He might not be a 1 and 2 might be his ceiling but, I love him as a 3 or x factor type guy. I think we havent even scratched the surface of what he can do if he gets RB touches.

it was a fumble my bad

referring to this my bad

I don't think he's a defensive end. hes a 3-4 edge. Beyond that hes an elite athlete and can play in space and coverage. we have seen him take picks to the house and so on. Other than being suspect in the run game i have 0 complaints about him. and hes super young. Core guy potentially a HOF talent.

players in the top 4 aren't

After all that we should have traded burns nonsense.

Corral has shown no reason to have faith in him in the future. This guy has upside. Corral's as big a project as anyone. hes fragile.. and showed nothing in limited reps. Even in practice like he had rarely flashed.

The thing is with a Rushing quarterback like this you can win with him. He doesnt have to be Manning out the gate just pick up a few first with his legs hit a few passes here and there. look at how successful we have been under Wilks run heavy game as of late. let him manage the game without forcing him to win the game until he develops.

I can't see this team going anywhere but QB. It just isnt possible. with darnold off the books and baker gone... who do you have? PJ? Corral? I know its fun to think about these other guys but come on...

If we aren't picking at the top to get one of the top 2 choices i gamble on upside. Richardson has more talent than any of these guys but it needs to be refined. I let him bench all year and see what he looks like next year if he can be had say end of round 1 or round 2.

This is all the reason in the world I need... this is hilarious

agreed... I don't think having Corral should negate or influence Travis as a potential selection. Even if we took say stroud in round 1. Travis as a backup taken in say the 6-7 isnt a bad idea. I think after this season we wipe the qb locker room clean.. Having 3 qbs compete for the spot of back and starter isnt a bad idea.

Im fine with stroud..but i wouldnt connect corral to Travis. my problem with Corral isnt his size.He just hasnt flashed any reason for me to have any faith in him. shoyld be be released? absoutely not. but we would be foolish to guarantee him anything.

you corral truthers are killing me...

tanking isnt specifically about stroud i feel. I feel its about being in the best position possible to help your franchise in the future no matter who you take. aif i want stroud it will cost u a lot less if your already at number 1. Vs having to trade up and loss more capital from say 8. Even if you dont want stroud you would be in a better position to take the BPA or even trade down and take say young and make a few extra picks to boot.

Thats true. I didn't want to win said meaningless game. im only speaking on the talent itself. Given if u trade burns u have to draft a replacement who might not even be as good as him. Your spinning your wheels in place when you already have a young pro bowl talent. Eventually you have to pay someone. We havd the cap to do it because we sony have an established QB. so why add another hole just to get picks for picks sake. even with said pick your not guaranteed to get someone as good as burns is.

" the panthers were stupid to not trade him for 2 first and a 2nd". "He's a good player not a great one."

Foreman looks like the missing hammer this team has been missing all those missed CMC 4th and 1 conversions. But seems we have in short term always found some relatively obscure rb to emerge whenever CMC vacates carries. Mike Davis comes to mind... with that said which is better? and do we resign or let him walk like Davis?

people complaining about what burns Extension would cost.. I'm thinking who really are we paying? we should have plenty of cap space in the future with no cmc no darnold and no baker.. not paying a franchise qb 400 million should have us in decent shape.