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Roseman's luck is unreal... or purposeful. I can't believe the talent that he's had fall to the Eagles the last few drafts. It's one thing to have wheeled and dealed the way he has... but how in the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck does he keep getting GIFTED players!?

Howie Roseman is the Game Genie of GMs. Dude is an actual cheat code, it's so insane.

I'm not denying that being a fan of the Panthers has been downright painful at times, but I don't understand willfully gaslighting ourselves with misrepresentations. We don't need it to be any worse, the team has been embarrassing amounts of ass. Take for example the quoted part + the recent talk about the XL trade: there was clear misrepresentation. The team traded a 5th to move up when it was a 5th flipped to a 6th. Regaring "this sort of move"... the fifth-year bonus option wasn't implemented until 2011 following the CBA (which Panthers fans should definitely remember if they were around then, that time was the big suck imo). The 2024 draft was the first time the team had ever traded up from the second round into the first. This is quite literally the first time that it's happened. Now if we're talking about trading up in general not working out, well... that's why a lot of posters were against moving up from #8 when the team drafted Horn and #6 when they drafted Icky to take a QB. The data shows that it often doesn't pan out. At the same time, if the team wants a guy (or a particular position), there might be times where they just got to move up in order to get him. I'm not saying you gotta believe in the team. It's completely fair to have a wait and see approach... but I don't see the point in assuming the worst until then. It's not like it's going to be any less miserable if it does go bad again.

Kevin Kolb over Greg Olsen all day, amirite?

I get that y'all don't like the XL pick, but let's not act like it was a bad move to have a 5th year option available for him because we gave up a 5th round pick... especially when that's not true. Carolina traded a second (#33) and fifth (#141) for a first (#32) and sixth (#200) from Buffalo. It was just a pick swap... 32 <-> 33 and 200 <-> 141. They essentially gave up on a $1M/yr guy to make sure they're able to keep XL for another year should he pan out. Keeping a possible WR1 for a fifth year vs. picking a special teamer 60 picks earlier... There's arguments for both. Team needs more bodies, but setting up to have a potential WR1 at an affordable cost for another year is the exact Excel magic some in here keep ripping their hair out over the team not doing.

Gotta see what the team does in free agency first! Though looking at this upcoming free agency class does give us some info on what might happen. For example, the TE market is so thin that Tremble is under consideration to be brought back depending on what other teams offer him. Safety, on the other hand, has some really good players out there. There are a bunch of former Pro Bowl WRs also available, though once the top guys are gone the class gets MUCH thinner. I cannot WAIT for all of the activity starting next Monday when the legal tampering period starts.

4 more days until tampering period... 6 more until free agency...

Starting to see the vision now after some highlights... Got Syracuse vs. UNLV, NC State, VT, BC, and Miami queued up for Allen and OSU vs. Oregon (regular season), Nebraska, Indiana, Michigan, and Notre Dame for Williams. I am going to be so sad if I get firebombed with a bunch of tickets today while trying to be a degenerate on the clock.

Bring him to Sir Purr Some of y'all gotta update your budget spreadsheets. $10M for a safety is not as insane as folks want it to sound: Keep in mind, these numbers were BEFORE the recent salary cap increase. As the cap increases, so does pay on average. Of course, to be fair, Holland's best season was his second one. His most recent two weren't very good, but in 2023 he missed five games (x1 concussion, x4 sprained MCL) and he then missed two games in 2024 (broken left hand). Might be some wiggle room in negotiations...

Everybody knows that the only way a QB can be worth the #1 overall pick is if he can throw for 5k yards behind a 12th string interior OL. Bears should've drafted Bo Nix!! Am I doing it right?

Inject this directly into my veins

Double post somehow

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Odd that the same folks rolling their eyes about investing in the OL were pinching their tits over the Panthers doing it... Keep dooming, doomers.

Big fan of these 3! Tahj Brooks runs like a sledgehammer, Zy Alexander is yet another in a long line of LSU DBs, and Malachi Moore's College Gameday story made me an even bigger fan.

I liked him at Bama and love his scheme versatility. He's quick enough to play in a zone scheme but also gets enough drive to work power. Really high on his ability to recognize blitzes and stunts (that latter one being a sore spot for Panthers' fans the last cpl of seasons T_T) Oooh, I haven't checked out LeQuint Allen at all and I've still gotta watch Tyleik Williams. Might try and sneak in some of them in today when I hit this three hour stretch of meetings @ 1pm...

Keeping me honest, I appreciate that... but I haven't scouted LS nor P so I'm taking the coward's way out and grouping them all as special teams! ST: Andres Borregales, K, Miami Borregales is also the only ST player I've scouted... was interested after he worked with Coach Bates at the Senior Bowl.

Yea, the team has sucked for the last 5yrs but pretending that it has been all the same people doing the same thing is just being a miserable doomer. It's the offseason! You don't need to convince yourself that everything is the same forever and always. It's okay to have fun and be excited right now. We've got ~6mo before we get to be hurt again.

If I had to pick a favorite from each position group, mine would be: QB: Kyle McCord (Syracuse) RB: Cam Skatteboo (Arizona State) WR: Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) TE: Tyler Warren (Penn State) OT: Will Campbell (LSU) OG: Donovan Jackson (Ohio State) OC: Seth McLaughlin (Ohio State) EDGE: Donovan Ezeiruaku (Boston College) DL: Derrick Harmon (Oregon) LB: Jalon Walker (Georgia) CB: Dorian Strong (Virginia Tech) S: Malaki Starks (Georgia) If I had to put together a top 5 for prospects I enjoyed scouting the most, they'd be (in no particular order): Donovan Ezeiruaku, Tyler Warren, Dorian Strong, Malaki Starks, and Jalon Walker. If I hadn't watched Starks' 2023 + 2022 film as well, I'd probably swap him for Egbuka. Who have y'all enjoyed scouting?

Only two players tagged at the deadline... lowest since '94 (Trey Smith w/ KC & Tee w/ CIN) Osa got paid by Dallas. Bears trading a 2026 4th to the Chiefs for Joe Thuney and a 2025 6th to the Rams for Jonah Jackson. Looks like Ben Johnson is following the model set by the Panthers' last season...

Medicals just got leaked DAWG

Battling against possible new OT1 of the draft, Armand Membou. DAWG

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