Bear Hands

Sanders has no lateral vision.

There goes the Titans game. NYG aren't winning. So best case is really 5 if the Jags pull it off. Likely 6. If we win, could be 7-9.

Screw it, beat the birds

Pats are ahead of us no matter what. Jags are looking iffy against Indy. Giants can't move the ball vs. Philly, that looks out of reach. So...if we lose, still looking at it like this: 1/2 CLE/NE 3 TEN 4 NYG 5 JAX 6 BEST CASE CAR

I can already feel it, we're winning today.

Texans marched down and scored v. Titans. Tanner McKee looking like he could beat the Giants. Looks like we could be sticking around 5/6 even with a loss.

Miles Sanders, Eddie Piniero, Andy Dalton (retired), Cade Mays, & hot take Xavier Woods

I just don't think this is like every draft. It smells like 2013. I just don't see the all-pro talent at the top. It's a really poor draft at the top. Maybe Mason Graham and Malaki Starks...but just looking relatively: -Mims/Fuaga would be OT1 this year easy, no questions, ahead of Banks and Campbell. -Hunter & McMillan are more on a Drake London level than a Chase, Nabers, or Marv. Would take Rome ahead of both. -The top pass rushers would be going in the 20s or beyond most other years. -Overall, I like the interior DL, depth of the RB and Pass Rusher classes, and the safeties. But this is a pretty iffy group compared to most years in R1.

CLE and NE are ahead...highest pick is 3 if we lose. Games with implications w/a loss: 3 win teams (we have lower SOS than both so leap frog if we lose, they win): Titans vs. Texans - Texans sound to be resting their starters. Although, unsure if they want to limp into the playoffs. And Titans could still lose to backups. But winnable game, they did beat HOU this year before the Texans defense made a turnaround. Giants vs. Eagles - Eagles are resting certain starters vs the Giants. Again, a situation where the Iggles backups could still take care of things. 4 win teams: Jaguars vs. Colts - I don't know what will happen here. But both teams are in disarray. Jets vs Dolphins - Tua is out but the Dolphins still have a chance at the playoffs with a DEN loss. Interesting one to watch for since we have the same SOS right now. Raiders vs. Chargers - Chargers have playoff seeding on the line, could clean up. Bears vs. Packers - Seeding is on the line, Packers are not resting starters. - TL,DR: There's so much going on, I'm just going to split it and say we stay around 6. There's no particular guy we're missing out on in this draft IMO. There's no "OMG we have to get him" talent. I don't think Graham, Johnson, or McMillan are that. We end up where we end up.

Sorry @TheSpecialJuan Didn't see yours! Here you go

Final one of them NFL games for Carolina this year. Fun stuff

KOC has had his guys outperforming expectations every year on the job. He's a very very good coach. Darnold also stopped making the "Darnold" mistakes. He's really grown with that offense, JJ/Addison and the playcalling aside. And that defense with Metellus, Murphy, Greenard, & VG has been strong. They're a team I wouldn't mind seeing make a run. Fun offense, fun defense, great coaching, on the up and up.

Why are we placing a 2-3 mil/year FA signing on the same value level as a UDFA but adverse to using a 6th-7th on one? I don't get this logic or reasoning from either a financial or value standpoint. It's not like Shirden, Spencer Brown, or [insert next guy] will be some insert/magic button. We have selected UDFA RBs nearly every offseason for our entire history, and they rarely work out. Most starting RBs are draft picks, and for a reason. Just because R1-2 doesn't make sense value wise, unless it's a Gibbs-type talent, doesn't mean the talent in the mid to late rounds is rendered obsolete. Guys get drafted for a reason. If the value add and talent is there, by all means add it.

TB had White coming off a high volume year and Sean Tucker as a solid backup. I think they’re happy they took Bucky in the 5th. And we have 9 picks as is. Could end up with 10-11 by the draft. There really isn’t a position I’m all bent out of shape with drafting/not drafting. The team needs help nearly everywhere. Worst depth in the league.

This is a super deep RB draft. Getting one that is BPA on our board in the mid to late rounds isn’t out of the question. Sanders will/should be gone. Brooks on extended IR. Need Hubbard insurance. 4th to 7th rounds - sure why not.

ASU is no slouch. They’ve shown some grit today

That's an apt comparison with Samuel given how we've tried to use XL. His desired ceiling is some sort of amalgamation of DK & Deebo but it may take time to get consistent results. As a prospect, it was clear he is ideally an X, frame wise. But he still needed route running refinement and to work better against zone. And the lack of short area quickness led him to being more of a guy you trickle into that role and can use him in more gimmicky fashion where he's in motion and gaining speed pre-snap. Funny thing is he caught on quicker with playing outside early on, but he's still stiff and awkward. He's just in need of way more development than you want to see at that age - that's why I personally pegged him in the 3rd. I distinctly remember Brugler saying some teams had him as low as #70ish overall and a 3rd/4th rounder, but others had him as high as WR6. We were obviously one of those all about him. To note, we've played XL 25% slot, 75% wide. On the flipside, Ladd had the flexibility to play outside but it's due to his top tier route running and separation ability. But he's not the guy you isolate out there to play against man coverage. He's played slot 70% and out wide 30% of his snaps this season. And it's been a perfect blend. This is close to AT's allocation 70/30. The guy I was a BIG fan of that the 49ers pounced on was Pearsall, mainly because he had similar strengths to Ladd, but was a bit more of a frame to play man out wide. Some pegged him more slot, but funny enough, Shanahan has played him only 40% slot, 60% out wide. He's been showing off now that he's getting folded in more. You want the position flexibility with all your receivers these days, which is why I don't see redundancy with AT. We could've figured it out. You simply get a field stretcher to pull the faster CBs away from AT.

If you separate defensive playcalling vs personnel, it’s a bit hard to tell IMO because the talent has been so depleted. But he’s did get a lot of his guys (Jackson, Fuller, Hill, Robinson, Jewell, etc) And the lack of pass rushers is one of the worst d situations in the league the past 5 years easy. I will say, he was advertised as a Fangio disciple but blitz heavy with simulated pressures all over the place, and he originally lived up to that. Now, I don’t know if he’s changing unknowingly or failing to prescribe what works with our crap talent. But it’s not quite working. Honestly, this could be a defensive Joe Brady situation but I do think we’d be better suited to have Canales identify what he wants to build.

You can’t deny he’s been better. buuut— you can still spot the things he’s having a hard time overcoming at this level. Regardless, he’s been making smarter decisions and more clutch throws. So we’ve got Bryce for 2025 and we’ll see what happens.

Hehe I see things

Bythenumbers it doesn’t look good but this is a bit baity.

Yeah same here on the draft. We had complete tunnel vision on XL regardless of who else was available. Still miffed we didn’t get one of the guys that were more obviously going to transition easily. DeJean, Ladd, Sainristil, Frazier…there was legit talent right there and we reached on a guy we oversold ourselves on with marginal college experience.

You had the right balance of haterade and koolaid.

Oof I was way too high on the defense lol