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Rhule was fired 5 games into his third season. He barely got more than 2 years. He didn’t get 3.5 years.
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The staff is just bad. I know Tepper, Tepper, Tepper but I think Fitt and Reich were given the chance to get what they thought would work and failed miserably. It’s not surprising if you look back and don’t just blame Rhule for everything bad. Our 2021, 2022 and 2023 drafts don’t look much different (reaches, bad evaluations) and we traded up/traded picks way more after Hurney left and after Rhule left this year as well.
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Reich current highest odds to be first HC fired this season
WhoKnows replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
He really hasn’t. He’s had more good plays than Young, but he’s been in the NFL for years now. He was supposedly tearing poo up in the offseason but sometimes you feel like the coaches having training wheels on him and then other times he’ll make some awful throws. Again, he’s shown more highlights than we have have but he’s a 25 year old in his 4th season. -
Just watched the first play and that’s a wee bit of a rose colored glasses view. First, if play calling is an 8.5 out of 10 and our only problem is running the ball, we should score more than 6 offensive points. Also, on the first play he says Thielen is open but he’s got a guy right on him. I don’t want to be a Debbie downer but I watched the entire game and didn’t feel real good about the offense. Never mind, forgot where I was. Carry one, play calling couldn’t have been any better.
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I really hope you’re joking because I was. Unless you are Cowherd, most people know we don’t have our 1st next year so the Bears benefit, not us.
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I think I’ve gotten to the same place. This roster is so gutted it’s ridiculous. We feel so far from contending that I’m apathetic as well. It hurts way more because the huddle drafting and trading would easily have a much better team. So many obvious choices and they were all done wrong. We just lost to two bottom tier teams, both of which are on their backup QBs. I honestly don’t see ya competing with the current staff and if we let them go we’ve already mortgaged our future picks missing a 1st and 2nd in the next two years that will likely both be at the top of both rounds. Best case is maybe we can compete in 2027/2028 if we get the right folks. It feels like 2011 except that we traded Steve Smith and Greg Olsen, we don’t have the pick to get Luke and we took Gabbert instead of Cam. I don’t want to watch 5 years of that, but here we are. SMH.
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No, it doesn’t free up space for Burns. Burns is not on our 2024 cap right now at all. We can lower his new cap hit for 2024 with a long deal and bonuses but technically speaking, he counts $0 on the current cap so whatever his first year cap charge is, it comes out of the $40M in space we have now. Remember when we had $100M plus and everyone said don’t worry about the 2023 cap we’ll have gobs of space. $40M and we don’t even have 2 key cogs on D on our roster for 2024 yet and we are 1-8.
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SMH. It hurts when I read this knowing that we had 2 1sts and pick 36 for Burns. Pick 36 was right after La Porta so we could have traded up with DJ Johnson’s 4th to get La Porta or heck we could have traded his 3rd and 4th and gotten Kincaid. 2023 was the prime fuging year to draft a TE and we took Mingo and DJ and now we are looking for a TE. Fitterer is literally the worst GM on the planet. No, Moore is not available at all so GB we don’t want pick 15. Oh, we need to throw in Moore to sweeten the Young trade up? Sure thing. Ugh, just so freaking bad, like Hurney 2.0 just even worse.
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Me too. I recall a bunch of talk from our top article poster about how Rhule was on the hot seat to start 2022, which makes sense since he got fired after 5 games, and how Fitterer was given the controls personnel wise in 2022. That’s why Fitt got all the credit for great value trade for Mayfield (before he played) and for building the OL. The funny thing is that I think Tepper is involved but I think he thinks Hurney in 2020 and Fitt in 2021-2023 were solid. He gave Rhule full control. Does that sound like a guy who is making every decision? Why would Tepper hired a staff with so much experience and well thought of coordinators only to tell them what to do. One of the Reich highlights during the process was that he had his staff ready to go. Again, I think Tepper is involved but I think all the Tepper hate is coming from avoiding the truth that our GM and coaches are just plain bad outside of maybe the DC. The two main topics of recent discussion are always the point guard crap which Brown is on record saying 2 months before Tepper and the meetings with Reich. The meetings with Reich seem perfectly aligned with an owner of a 1 win team that was sold playoffs/one QB away by Fitt and Reich. I don’t know for sure but I don’t think Tepper is changing decisions.
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Or they kept Hurney and hired Fitterer. I know Tepper has taken over the Rhule boogeyman role but I still can’t believe people in here think either of them made every single decision. I go back to why we laughed at Tepper to start when he said how good a college scout Hurney was. That doesn’t come out of the mouth of a guy who’s running the draft for the team. I think a lot upset with the offense and meetings with Reich have come from Tepper having way more trust in Fitterer and the coaching staff that people think. Thomas Brown started the point guard QB talk in February that everyone associates with Tepper’s interview in April. Also, not really directed this at you, just worked with the Or. Tepper has still been a disaster because he’s hired very poorly and we are the worst team now that Murray’s back.
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No kidding. We are 1-8. Trading picks away for WRs is beyond stupid. He’s already pissed away so much talent and drafted poorly that we are worse than Rhule’s teams. Now he wants to fug up our future even more. If you want Higgins sign him as a FA. Higgins doesn’t make us a contender so stop wasting picks. He’s more of a cover my ass/do deals to save my job than Hurney was. If we let him do any more he will ruin the next decade.
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Who cares? This team is a bucket of balls. Yes, the D played better than the O but it was Pagent trying to not to lose.
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Our 2024 1st is back to pick #1, so we got that going for us.
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Yep. We waste a time-out so you can’t even get the ball back if the D gets a 3 and out. If you are going to potentially kick a 59 yarder, WTF don’t you call some plays to at least make it a low 50 yarder. Coaching is poo.
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Was thinking the same thing. How slow was he running?
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Fug you Al Michaels, we know we could have drafted Stroud.
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Holding and offensive PI work for you?
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We can’t even get excited about having our best draft pick position since Cam. Is there any old NFL rule we can find where we can return Young to Chicago for our 2024 pick?
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False start by Iky yet again. SMH.
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fug you Al Michaels, we know exactly what we gave up. fuging Fitterer. Might be the shittiest GM ever in the history of the NFL.
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I’d have turned this crap off if I didn’t have tomorrow off. This team is so far from competitive it’s ridiculous.
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Well, we gave them an OT and DJ Moore along with a bunch of other great picks.
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Jackson has been solid tonight although the throw was late.