Gapanthersfan

Give me 1 reason to be hopeful that we will play at least .500 football in the next 3 years.

Panthers are officially the heel in a game that more and more appears to have prearranged outcomes. The NFl carefully vetted the type of owner they wanted for the Panthers and Dave fit the bill. I truly think they love what’s going on with our team. Did Richardson irk them and this is payback? The owners knew exactly what Dave would be like. The utter chaos he would bring. They had to of known he was a complete head case with the time he spent with the Steelers. They knew that we as a franchise would be completely screwed if he took over as owner. The only sign of hope, winning, of returning to some semblance of prideful panther football at the end of last season had to be quickly dismantled. Impugned. we are getting played, plain and simple. The owners dropped a no-nothing egomaniac head case on us as our owner… and knew it. There is no way that our current state of affairs was not intentional. Dave doesn’t want to win. He wants to be worshipped, it’s just that a winning football team is a prerequisite for that to occur… and no amount of money has been able to buy it for him. Only a VERY serious sexual or racial allegation would budge the needle. Heck, he let the first black head coach of the panthers, who was loved, respected and WINNING go without even consideration… and where was the injustice there? so yeah, no good vibes here. I guess I’ll have to keep rewatching 2003 and 2015 highlights. The ‘screw you’ drink toss, symbolically, hit all of us in the face, only it was the other 31 owners who did it.

Paid the incident lip service, had a good yuck it up, then talked coach search and Brice. Yup, looks like this one will fizzle quickly.

But they seem to yuck it up in the end, kind of illustrating the point of the 2 tiered, see what we can get away with system.

Tepper: The greatest unifier the franchise has ever known.

Is this the only time in history the entire board has been 100% unified on something?

The only reprimand, if they are serious about doing so, is telling him no to something. Give him something money won’t sway. Money doesn’t matter at his level. He will find a work around for being banned from the stadium. That won’t do squat. let them announce on draft night, Carolina is ineligible for this year’s draft class due to a major infraction of league guidelines. If the league valued integrity they would do this, but they don’t, so they won’t. The case is pretty cut and dry. It’s clearly on video, already with 10s of millions of views. And silence?

Fixed it for you.

It may not seem like a big deal, but it is a big deal. I’m sure he’s cooked something up in his brain that has him believing that he has committed no foul. I wonder how locker room talk is going to go this week. Im not sure how Tepper will be able to beat this, but I have no doubt in my heart that he will. This has quickly become the most clown showiest professional sports franchise I’ve ever known. It’s almost like a guy who has made billions off of tanking business was essentially given a b market NFL team and in 5 years had managed to annihilate the fan base to the point where they actually want their team gone. Weren’t they the same team blew up everything when a popular coach found a way to start winning games, fans came back and morale improved? Doesn’t sound so conspiratorial now, huh.

The pressure needs to continue at the local level until the national media has no choice but to cover it. If they wanted to, they would have done so by now.

Agreed. To me, and hopefully everyone else, this is so impactful because I can see it with my own 2 eyes. There is no possibility of embellishment (certainly not inferring such of other owners scumbaggery). Billionaire on high without impunity throwing a drink at a common plebe knowing no repercussions will follow. At the next country club gathering, it’ll probably be bragged about and they’ll yuck it up.

Yup, so still not even a peep on nfl.com. There had been a tiny link to an article on espn.com on Sunday but that’s now gone. No official word from the nfl. Nothing spoken from the panthers front office. I can now see how this is going to play out. Abhorrent and sickening. Again demonstrates that the ruling class has their own rule book… every page is blank…

So does this make Dave a tosser, then? Secondly: A new money, ahole rookie owner who told all the current owners that analytics was the future and has now put a spotlight back on owners…

Just like the team, this is another problem money won’t fix for Dave. He is 1000% unable to control an outcome with his only tool, money, and the tantrums that you see are him realizing it. Up to this point, he’s been able to get anything he’s wanted… until now. It’s literally a child being told no. This is a bigger deal than people are giving it credit for. The spotlight had finally faded from the team owners and they could go back to their life as they knew it. With this, he’s now brought MAJOR heat back again. This isn’t ’reports are owner x’ news columns. This is a good quality forever video of a billionaire NFL team owner committing a crime (yes it’s dumb, but by law a crime). Expect more ‘team owners’ columns again and all the owners now have to watch their a$$es again until this heat goes away. A light punishment will only generate more articles on how he got off easy on the 2 tiered justice system. Old heads can fade this type of stuff, usually… but he’s a rookie a hole owner of the laughing stock team who told the other owners that their way was outdated. And he’s now brought heat back.

4 first round picks down the crapper. Didn’t go through with the Burns trade and now this. 4. We could have rolled more or less intact, sans Burns, from last season’s team and have had a decently reliable offense. But we would still be picking in the top 10, probably, and have the future picks from the rams. We could have had a Hubbard Foreman 1-2 punch, DJ Moore and pick up Thielen. Small moves, recognizing what was working for us. The o line finished the season strong. It was falling in to place. Fans were back. Keep pounding was back. But this insecure drink throwing egomaniac despised it. He needed Dave ball, not Jerry ball. He wants the credit and notoriety. ‘Team’ is irrelevant to him. That’s why he’s so quick to blow it up and only hire people that will defer to his manipulation. He’s not mad over losing. He’s mad because he knows he looks like a complete idiot and the only solution he’s ever known, money, isn’t working… and if anything else, it’s only getting worse. He wants Dave to win first, Panthers to win second. He now knows that more money won’t fix this. Well dang. That’s his biggest tool. I think he’s now seeing that his picks and style of play not only lose, but is the biggest laughing stock in professional sports. He bought the team for profit and notoriety. Hiring football minds to run the show completely takes the shine off of him. I honestly think he would rather cut bait than to ever let that happen. I would pay money to see how the conversations went with him and Wilks after another W playing Wilks ball. Selling the team, he can then advertise it as another Dave victory with the $ he’ll make.

Tepper cares about people praising and worshipping him. Winning is just the mechanism for which that is supposed to occur. If winning did not achieve praise for him, he would be indifferent towards it. Egomaniacs are by rule insecure. To be laughed at and mocked will bring on a tantrum…

Etienne goes for a buck fiddy and 2 TDs. If we can get them off the field and Chark and Bryce continue their mojo, we could put up points again

Why does Burns get the ‘he doesn’t want to be here’ pass that excuses his abysmal play, but if he were a no name jag, people on this board would be calling for his head.

I never said we were good. Very far from it, but we do have winners. No one has yet to dispute anyone on my list. We do have lots of good players, but that in itself does not win games. Sniffrey listed 10 players. All good talent. I don’t agree with his placement, but 10 obviously talented players that would start on other teams. We have talent on this team, but holes at key places and depth issues.

Here’s another good vibe thread. No knockers allowed. Yes, too long to read blah blah. You’re spending Thursday afternoon on a message board. Do you seriously have anything better to do with your time? Yes, this Panthers team has talent. We can field an NFL caliber roster… and win, or at least showing we’re not that far from it. I’m not drunk on the hopeium, just buzzed. Yes, the top teams still exploit us, not denying that, but we do have guys that would upgrade other teams’ rosters… DUDES… something I didn’t think I would say when the season started. We have holes that you can fly a 747 through, but we do have quite a few good pieces. Rank: #1. And it’s not even arguable: His name rhymes with Frankie Luvu. A who is that turned in to a legit All Pro, and it’s a crime if he isn’t. Intelligent. Driven. Complete animal in every aspect of the game. Best who is that signing since Norwell. 2. Thielen: Yup. Another first down. Just throw it. I’ll catch it. Oh, there’s another first down. Pro bowl talent. 3. Brown. Pocket destroyer, run killer. Soon to be sack master and what Jenkins should have been. He’s just waiting for actual pass rushers to show up. All pro talent. 4. Horn: The man that is impossible to give up on. Legit HOF talent if he could only stay healthy. All pro talent. 5. Bryce: The last 2 games when we were down, he stepped up and made big plays at big times. Very well done young man. Impossible to say his ceiling at this point. 6. Hubbard: 2nd 10 is now 3rd and 2. You’re welcome. He has done this every game, all season. Fringe pro bowl potential, but probably not. 7. Chark: First game where I’ve seen one of our receivers be completely uncoverable since…? His ceiling is? A lot to still be seen, but that game was insane for him. DJ had some huge games for us, but I don’t remember a game where he showed me what I saw on Sunday (flame away). Every play he made was in good coverage but it didn’t seem to matter. When was the last ‘you can not cover my guy’ game that we’ve seen from an WR, and it was actually our guy. Good hands day Ginn? Pro bowl talent. Maybe more. Our depth is awful. We have some glaring talent and coaching holes (does the D line even have a coach?)… But we have gamers. Play makers. Please retain our core and don’t burn it down.

My view is that the team needs stability over anything else right now. Even if we miss out on the hot hires this cycle, there are new hot hires every season. If we finish out the season on an upswing but blow it all up again, we will be repeating the same mistake we made last season. If we would have signed Wilkes for a 1 or 2 year contract, signed Brown, Evero, and whomever else is responsible for our reincarnation, this year would have gone much better overall. Bryce wouldn’t have had his brains beat in all year and he could be much further along. I believe Wilkes would have objected to Young over Stroud, but he would have at least tried, unlike Frank. He definitely wouldn’t have tolerated the crap Burns has pulled. If Wilkes ends up being the one, then great. If it looks like we need to go another direction, at least we show potential candidates we’re not a complete clown show and land ourself an actual good coach for a change. Give the players, coaches and fans some stability.

5 new head coaches in 3 years is not a recipe of success.

So the fifth head coach in 3 years is something to get excited about? Complete clown show.

As awful as it sounds, our goal for next season needs to just be mediocre. Seriously. Just learn to win. Be stable. Get some good players via the draft. Reward the talent on our team that play like they actually enjoy the game. Get solid position coaching. Bring fans back to the stadium. If we continue an upward trend for this season, keep it intact for next season and see what we have. Nothing to lose. Don’t make the same mistake we did last season.

Bryce consistently made NFL caliber throws in to tight windows with confidence, with timing. It’s so completely different and unrecognizable from what we’ve seen up to this point. It was like trying to compare a kiwi fruit to a king cobra. I think the entire offense finally has a philosophy and identity that suits their talent. We finally saw Bryce throw on schedule with confidence. The receivers are talented. Chark and Thielen aren’t bums. This Sullivan cat… where did this guy come from? Practice squad call up? He’s got gamer vibes all day. When he’s open, He gets WIDE open. Mingo hasn’t shown me anything promising, Chuba now catching everything that comes his way. The receivers are talented. They are good players. Today was just different, and it built on some things we saw last week. Yesterday was a step in the right direction, regardless of who they played. I hope it continues.