LinvilleGorge

Yep. Jones being true ass might pave the way for a Sam Howell. Like I said last year before the season started, Teddy isn't good enough to allow us to compete but he is just good enough to keep us out of range of a top QB in the draft and lo and behold, here we are...

I want no part of Mac Jones anywhere in the top 20-25 picks or so. He's a late 1st rounder at best IMO. Someone is gonna fall in love with him and convince themselves the physical limitations don't matter and reach, but honestly he probably should be there when we draft in the 2nd if sanity ruled draft rooms.

What QB did we have the opportunity to draft in '19? '20? Did you really want Jordan Love at #7? I sure as hell didn't.

I won't watch another Teddy QB'd Panthers game.

Trubisky is better than Teddy and has upside. Physically he has much better tools to work with than Teddy does. Teddy isn't the answer. The organization has made that clear. Everyone in the locker room knows how the organization feels. Bringing back Teddy next year is like waving the white flag before the season even starts. You can't do it at this point.

Yeah, I really think that our inability to offer the Texans the guaranteed opportunity to draft a QB may be our undoing in the Watson race. The Jets can do it. We can't. We probably need the Jets and Dolphins both to bow out of the race to have a shot.

You don't give up on a franchise QB until you're sure he isn't salvageable and now we're seeing why that is. They don't exactly grow on trees.

Tepper is going into year three and still hasn't seen his team field a high quality QB. Cam was already broken by the time Tepper bought the team. He's feeling desperation.

I'm not sold on that. But I do think he could see a career resurgence outside of Chicago and away from Nagy. I honestly think Nagy might be another Gase. I'd still take a chance on any of the "big four" prospects over Trubisky though and I've always been a Trubisky defender. Foles looking like trash in Nagy's offense this year definitely strengthens the case for Trubisky IMO.

We've reached the point of desperation. We see a Watson trade is increasingly unlikely to work out for us. We see there's more and more smoke that all of the "big four" QB prospects may well be gone by #8. So now we're grasping at straws trying to convince ourselves that a Mac Jones or Mitch Trubisky could actually be the answer. Fug.

If the right guy is there, I would too. Sitting at #8 though with a lot of other teams also needing QBs, there's a decent to maybe even good chance that won't happen though.

They're still under the delusion that Nagy isn't their biggest problem at QB. I figured Foles also looking like trash would wake them up, but evidently not.

If not for when they benched him for Foles (who looked way worse than Trubisky under Nagy), his stats work out to around 3600 yards and 28 TDs. That would be middle of the pack in yardage and #11 in TDs last year. I think we have the better weapons and the far better offensive system. Nagy looks like a hack IMHO. They had the #11 D in yardage and #14 D in scoring. Their D was decent. Above average. But definitely not a dominant D.

If we can't trade for Watson and it doesn't work out for us with a QB at #8 or a trade up for a QB, it's not very difficult at all to envision a scenario where Trubisky is our best option. Is that what I want? No, but I'd rather give Trubisky a shot than roll with Teddy for another year.

The bonus money is a sunk cost. It's getting paid no matter what. The salary is the "good" money after the bonus "bad".

C'mon now. Think about it. You can do it.

No reason to throw good money after bad.

Oh for sure, being able to go up against Peppers everyday definitely helps. And yeah, any OL we would even consider has to play LT. No team sorry enough to land a top 10 pick can afford to spend it on an OG.

He was actually drafted the year after Peppers, one of the freakiest DEs ever.

Smith won the Heisman for a reason. Most thought a WR would never even be considered again until Smith did what he did. He had 12 catches for 215 yards and 3 TDs against OSU at halftime and he was WIDE open on most of them.

I think confirming sub-4.7 would. No one expected him to run like Lamar Jackson or even Cam speeds, but sub-4.7 at his size would still be a good time and confirm that he can be a threat with his legs at the NFL level.

Did they play at the D1-AA level?

So run then.

Running is a big part of his game and there are serious questions about his level of competition. If he could run fast it would definitely help him. My point is that I don't think he can. You think Lamar Jackson lasts until #32 if he had gone out there and ran sub-4.4 like he's probably capable? Now I get why he chose not to run. Some teams were talking possible position change with him and he was adamant about staying at QB. But no one is talking position change with Lance.

I think that bridge is burned.