LinvilleGorge

Professional idiots don't count. I could point you to numerous clinical trials but let's not kid ourselves, that won't matter to you

It should be a criminal act to be this stupid

They do work as long as the vast majority of people actually wear them.

Not sure when you last looked at a map, but there's a helluva lot more water between us and China than Japan and China. Mexico and Canada probably wish there was an ocean between us and them right now.

Japan has less than 1000 COVID deaths and never went into lockdown. Why? Because they wear fuging masks. It's really simple, folks. Wear a damn mask.

We're going to see a lot of big numbers in the coming weeks following the 4th just like we did after Memorial Day. Memorial Day was essentially the kickoff of this current spike. I think the 4th is going to spike the spike Gronk style.

His wife might be the dumbest creature currently walking the face of the Earth. Like if you built a modern day Noah's ark, she might literally be the dumbest creature on that boat. I hope this is a troll account. If it is, well done. If it's not I'm terrified.

You're literally trying to equate expertise and reliance on data to pure political pandering. This is some true lowest common denominator stuff.

Just acknowledgement of reality. Like I said, one is rooted in expertise and data, something that admittedly is developing which means there will be some changes over time. The other is purely political. That's the part of that post you conveniently ignored.

Kinda like how the goalposts have been moved from Chinese bioweapon to liberal hoax to "nothing burger" to "just live with it"? At least one is based off of actual data and expertise. The other is rooted in sowing division and stoking the lowest common denominator of a political base.

Data changes with a novel virus. You're working with a small data subset and virtually no history. It's interesting how the group that claims the experts are liars vigorously accepted constantly shifting politically motivated conspiracies. It's a Chinese biological weapon. No, it's a liberal hoax. No, it's a "nothing burger". No, we just need to "learn how to live with it." Listen, that's exactly what we're trying to do. We have very good evidence that mask wearing and social distancing are very effective at preventing and slowing the spread but that requires the absolute minimum of effort and you don't like that so you claim that people who wear masks are sheep and politicize it. What we really need is a pandemic that specific targets the stupid.

Yeah most people who can fug you up and know it don't feel the need to posture and act like that. Those types are like human possums. Their first method of defense is to posture and hiss. If that doesn't work, run. The last resort is to play dead.

It's staggering how many people seemingly can't comprehend this.

It's no different than any other communicable disease. Exposure doesn't necessarily equal infection. When my wife or I get a cold, the other often also gets it but not always. The odds of contracting this disease is likely higher due to less immunological resistance compared to common colds and flus, but still, it's pretty common to find that not everyone in a household gets it despite living under the same roof as someone who is positive.

It's the best we have. I mean, the virus has been around for well under a year. We really don't know if long-term immunity is a reality or not.

Yeah, what I've seen indicates the antibodies fade fairly quickly but immune resistance if not outright immunity will likely continue beyond the antibodies being undetectable. I very likely had it in late January after a trip to Seattle. My antibody test in late April came back inconclusive. Antibodies were present, but not enough to meet the baseline for a positive test. The re-test came back negative.

No, I get that 60% figure. I'm just saying that the assertation that it's impossible based on antibody testing a mere 6 months or so into the outbreak of a new disease when very significant mitigation efforts were taken seems to be jumping the gun big time.

People absolutely should be wearing masks. I'm still not sure how a 5% antibody rate after only one wave of infection would indicate that herd immunity is an impossibility.

Yeah, we discussed it a week ago.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/239-experts-1-big-claim-151916602.html Please wear a mask.

It's really not good that Florida and Arizona are currently leading the charge. Arizona is basically Florida West in that it's the top retirement destination for the western US.

The WHO is looking worse and worse on this. Don't let that distract you from our utter failure as a country, but the WHO had an awful response as well. Trump's claims that the WHO is in China's pocket may not be completely unfounded, but again, don't let that distract you from our failure. Since these early days, there has been plenty of data available that we've largely brushed aside while watching virtually every other developed nation on the planet do a much better job of managing their response to this virus. Can't blame the WHO when that's the case, but the WHO should take a long look at itself after this to examine how they can also improve. https://www.yahoo.com/news/changed-coronavirus-timeline-got-first-110340600.html

That alone should be enough to revoke a medical license. That's some powerful stupidity.