LinvilleGorge

You made a decent point here. Rhule got taken to school by the HC Tepper fired to hire him and his D he's spent all of our resources for the last two years building made a QB cut to pursue the likes of Teddy and Darnold (LOL!) look like prime Drew Brees. Yikes. NOT a good look.

Rhule got sold HARD on Rhule but without strong indications that he's developing as a HC, I wouldn't call it "patience" to keep him. I'd call it hard headedness. I raised the concerns when we hired Rhule. The guy never beat any actual good college teams. I figured it up and I think he was something along the lines of 2-19 vs. ranked teams off the top of my head with the two ranked wins coming against ECU and Navy teams that just happened to blip into the rankings when they faced Temple. He never beat a ranked opponent while at Baylor.

People (including myself) were quick to crown Brady after the dramatic offensive turnaround at LSU, but in hindsight I think that was more of a condemnation of their OC's prior offensive system that had last been seen when football was played wearing leather helmets. They had a stud NFL QB. A guy who already looks like the best WR in football as a rookie. Multiple NFL OLs. A legit starting NFL RB. I mean, they were fuging LOADED with talent. Hindsight being 20/20, yeah what they did was impressive as hell but it's not as shocking as it looked at the time simply because the turnaround was so dramatic.

I really thought limitations at QB had a lot to do with it. If we don't see a big improvement next week with Cam having adequate time with the team to start really opening up the playbook then I'm done with him too. Though honestly, Rhule has made him completely change his entire offensive approach. Brady needs to go to Matt and say, "Hey, now that we have an actual QB, will you let me actually go back to running the offense you brought me here to run?"

I agree with the thread title. Now marinate on that for a moment. We got out-game planned, out-schemed, and out-coached by Ron fuging Rivera. That was the last straw for me on Matt Rhule and company. Barring a dramatic turnaround I'm ready to move on after this season.

Yep. We've spent too many resources on THIS team and it has left use absolutely strapped for draft capital next April.

Honestly, Kris Jenkins minus the weight and motivation issues was what I was expecting out of Brown. You can go back and look. That was the comp I always made for Derrick Brown.

That's the type of impact you're looking for taking a DT in the top 10. Some would call Star disappointing but at least he was dominant against the run. Brown has just been... well, just kinda there. He hasn't really stood out in any particular way. If he was a 3rd rounder we'd be happy but he was a top 10 pick.

Cam was pretty damn good today for a QB with about 10 days with the playbook. I thought most of Brady's situational play calling issues were probably due to limitations at QB but now I'm starting to come around to the idea that he just sucks at situational play calling. We lost this game on D though. WFT did whatever they wanted and dominated the TOP. 190 rushing yards allowed and a 73% completion percentage. Yikes. You're going to win very few games when you allow that type of offensive efficiency.

I LOVED the Brown pick but man, not gonna lie he's been underwhelming. Not the impact player I was expecting. You don't want a "good" DT in the top 10. You want a game wrecker. We haven't seen that from Brown.

Evidently it's talking billionaires out of millions.

Yep. If you want to try to run to borders against us, best of luck. We have the speed to feast on that. But if you line up heavy and keep it between the tackles... uh oh.

We can't stop the power run. That's glaring.

Honestly, Fitts can GTFO too. Go hire a guy you trust to he a real GM, not just a paper pusher for a college coach calling the shots.

Thank you. Seriously.

We have a glaring weakness that we evidently can't fix. Not sure this ranking is going to hold. Especially if the offense can continue to be a threat forcing teams to actually try to score and not just play it safe knowing Darnold can't beat them.

When you've spent virtually all of your resources for two straight years on one side of the ball it better be pretty damn close to a finished product.

Honestly, even worse... I think he let the booing of the fans as the punter was trotting out change his mind. I think the change of mind was the right call but had the boos not rained down I honestly think they would've gone through with the punt. I just think Rhule and company are in over their heads. Seeing them out-coached by Ron Rivera cemented that for me.

Yep. He's played well this season, but we should've considered pulling him at halftime. It was pretty clear that when they were throwing the ball that their first read was whoever Dante was covering. Kinda telling since Ron coached D-Jax.

He's not a bad QB, he's just physically fragile. Our D just got plain handled today and it started with us not being able to stop the run. When you can't stop the run all of a sudden everything else gets a lot harder too. They got everything they wanted running off tackle to the left all game long.

Bingo. They put together long drive after long drive all game long.

Hindsight is always 20/20 but I firmly believe had we punted that ball we wouldn't have seen it again. They would've ran out the clock on us... and you'd be saying how punting it was the wrong call.

I disagree. Our D hadn't stopped poo all day. I agree with that call.

Barring a dramatic turnaround we need to move on this off-season. The college coaching staff hasn't panned out.

They really weren't. We've just revamped our offensive approach. We're playing "lean on your D" offense. Can't win like that when your D plays like ours did today.