LinvilleGorge

It's the best we have. I mean, the virus has been around for well under a year. We really don't know if long-term immunity is a reality or not.

Yeah, what I've seen indicates the antibodies fade fairly quickly but immune resistance if not outright immunity will likely continue beyond the antibodies being undetectable. I very likely had it in late January after a trip to Seattle. My antibody test in late April came back inconclusive. Antibodies were present, but not enough to meet the baseline for a positive test. The re-test came back negative.

No, I get that 60% figure. I'm just saying that the assertation that it's impossible based on antibody testing a mere 6 months or so into the outbreak of a new disease when very significant mitigation efforts were taken seems to be jumping the gun big time.

People absolutely should be wearing masks. I'm still not sure how a 5% antibody rate after only one wave of infection would indicate that herd immunity is an impossibility.

Yeah, we discussed it a week ago.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/239-experts-1-big-claim-151916602.html Please wear a mask.

It's really not good that Florida and Arizona are currently leading the charge. Arizona is basically Florida West in that it's the top retirement destination for the western US.

The WHO is looking worse and worse on this. Don't let that distract you from our utter failure as a country, but the WHO had an awful response as well. Trump's claims that the WHO is in China's pocket may not be completely unfounded, but again, don't let that distract you from our failure. Since these early days, there has been plenty of data available that we've largely brushed aside while watching virtually every other developed nation on the planet do a much better job of managing their response to this virus. Can't blame the WHO when that's the case, but the WHO should take a long look at itself after this to examine how they can also improve. https://www.yahoo.com/news/changed-coronavirus-timeline-got-first-110340600.html

That alone should be enough to revoke a medical license. That's some powerful stupidity.

Are we gonna have to temporarily lock this thread again? I feel like I'm dealing with my four year old daughter here.

Take this stuff to the TB. Our COVID response (or lack thereof) clearly has unavoidable political tie-ins, but the course of this conversation is pure TB territory.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but new cases were fairly flat until mid-June. The people who are being infected during this spike probably haven't started dying yet.

This is why we won't have football in the fall. https://mobile.twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/1278380475548139520 The same thing will happen in the NFL.

Yep. We tried that first Friday the NC mask mandate went into effect. Virtually no patrons were wearing masks. The restaurant staff were wearing them around their chins. We just turned around and noped right on out of there.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to do all beef due to a pork allergy in the family

In early November, we'll just be starting cold/flu season. The reality is that Trump bet his presidency on COVID running it's course quickly and a resulting quick V-shaped economic recovery despite every virologists and epidemiologist on the planet saying that was the least likely scenario. He bet big and he lost big.

Also, for recipe translation sake, I have to assume that "like 4 people" probably translates to roughly half of a typical American portion.

Arizona just reported a new record high for them of 4878 new cases over the last 25 hours. Even more alarming, 28.3% of their tests came back positive. Damn near a third of the tests they're performing are positive.

Oh hell yeah. I'm making that poo tonight.

I said positive rates are increasing. That is factual. I didn't say positive rates are increasing from all-time highs. These aren't difficult concepts, man.

LOL. Take another look at the graph and the current trend.

No. It absolutely isn't. If that was the case, percentage of positives would be rapidly declining. They're actually increasing in a lot of areas despite more testing.

We're way too interconnected with interstate commerce. That's why we need widespread efforts. Local efforts aren't enough. The vast majority of the cases genetically trace to the original NYC outbreak. Unfortunately, the virus doesn't understand or respect man-made barriers like state lines.

Look at their current case counts versus ours though. Our athletes have a much higher chance of exposure and infection simply because there's a lot more virus in circulation here than there.

I'm not sure what posting about these anecdotal one offs is supposed to accomplish or prove. We've already had the "prevention isn't 100% effective" argument. Meanwhile,