LinvilleGorge

Why do people still scream what could we have done differently? How do you explain how the rest of the entire developed world handled it so much better?

Trump will have to ramble incoherently about nothing and build more snowmen (uh, I mean give another speech) again to allow them to reload.

Explain why we're the global leaders in cases and deaths then. The rest of the world took aggressive mitigation measures. When we did, we saw our numbers begin to decline and then we threw caution to the wind again and here we are. It's morons like you why we're in our current situation. Thanks.

I particularly enjoyed the part where a fat old man decided he was going to try to fight two much younger, much fitter men. Buddy, I don't think that's gonna go well for you.

There's no more argument about masks than there is the Earth being flat.

It was over 4 months ago. And it's been discussed over and over on this thread. I understand why he said what he said at the time, but it was an idiotically reckless statement that lacked any foresight.

My goal for my next move is to not be able to see another house from mine.

Fake news. I've already been told by the smartest folks around that masks don't work. This thing just has to run its course. Nothing we can do.

This is one of the most powerfully stupid takes I've ever read on anything in my entire life.

I think this is the conclusion that more and more of us are arriving at.

Ouch.

Holy poo, remember that barista who got $100k+ in tips after some Karen posted something on FB hating on him because he did his job and told her that a mask was required? Well, that Karen is now the early leader in the clubhouse for Karen of the Year. She's suing the barista claiming she's entitled to half of those tips. https://abc7.com/amp/san-diego-starbucks-gofundme-for-barista-face-mask-complaint-gofund-me-lenin-gutierrez/6319618/?fbclid=IwAR1ihL_5Sh_o0cBTR_nLSeQ4WPV59qNG_2Kpqk2S4QICa0b8q4C7MJ6LkTs&__twitter_impression=true

So you haven't seen or heard that speech? You just decided that I had only heard that he'd said that and then parroted it? This actually explains a lot.

Might want to listen to his North Charleston speech. If he didn't specifically mean that, he certainly implied it - which is a trick he used a lot. He implies a lot of idiotic things to appeal to his idiotic base and then denies them because he only implied them.

Critically questioning things with a degree of skepticism is a good thing. To a point. But when carried to the extreme to where it leads to embracing any anti-establishment viewpoint, that's how you end up believing the Earth is flat and that COVID is a hoax.

Yeah, it was the very first thing I saw. I really didn't need to read much deeper, but I did. It just got worse. The study has now been retracted. LOL

I really tried this approach for the longest time. Logic and evidence will eventually win, right? Face punching might actually be the way to go.

I'm absolutely not sorry for warning you and then following through with my unheeded warning.

Yeah, masks aren't going to do a great job of filtering aerosolized particles. I think everyone already knew that. The thing is that we're not really generating all that many aerosolized particles in normal everyday life. It's why so many outbreaks have been linked to choirs and churches. Singing and shouting does produce a lot more aerosols. They really cheapened their own paper when they referenced this study: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342 I took a quick look. Holy poo, that's a laughable study. First of all, they had a sample size of four. Second of all, in their testing they found no virus detected on the inside of two masks while finding virus on the outside. That screams control issues or even outright data falsification. You mentioned common sense earlier, now use it. Do you really think a mask being worn by an infected person would have no virus detected on the inside of it? Did the virus teleport itself through the mask and then consciously decide to cling to the exterior? There testing was also done at a distance of roughly 8" away. Much closer than any normal social encounter and far closer than the recommended six feet of social distancing which mask wearing does not change. At the end of the day, their entire paper was based on theory and their conclusions of ineffectiveness were based on ineffectiveness from very small aerosolized particles. Not just aerosolized, but very small even for aerosols. Fortunately, in recent weeks we accidentally found a very good real world case https://www.livescience.com/hair-stylists-infected-covid19-face-masks.html Two infected hair stylists cut the hair of 139 people while wearing masks and requiring clients to wear masks. None of those 139 people have tested positive despite spending significant time in very close proximity to an infected person.

You're currently posting. You got a one hour timeout for spamming after being warned to take it to the TB. Cry about it more. Let's see your "REAL info".

I can't do this again today. I'm done with the idiocy. All the data is wrong. All those other countries that have virtually snuffed out COVID evidently just got lucky. We're on the right path despite blowing every other country on Earth out of the water in both case count and deaths. It's just stunning arrogance and ignorance.

Nailed it. It's impossible to have a civil intellectually honest debate with someone who ignores facts and data and evidence to insert their own opinions as if they carry the same weight.

Dafuq are you even talking about? The post you quoted wasn't directed towards you.

No disagreement there. I think it just has a huge normalization and empowering impact when you have a sitting POTUS spewing the anti-intellectual propaganda.

Is it really a conspiracy? Are you paying any attention to what is happening? Wait... let me retract that. The answers are pretty obvious.