JawnyBlaze

The numerous mistakes in the playoffs weren't his first time making mistakes fielding punts. Or the second. Or the third. He was poor at it all season. The one in the gif earlier in this thread was the MOST bone-headed of them, but he was bobbling punts and making other mistakes all season long.

Beating a child the way AP beat his is completely wrong and should be admonished. But that had nothing to do with Greg Hardy. AP abused a child. Greg Hardy was hoodwinked by an experienced manipulator of men. Completely unrelated.

"bad" as a WR? nah, he had some good catches. Get separation? No. Trustworthy as a punt returner? Never. Has enough upside as a WR to justify spending a roster spot on him, especially when he's a liability on special teams? Not really.

Bucs signed Bruce carter. There had been some talk around here about him

I have no problem with the level of players he's targeting. Oher and Ginn are exactly the sort I'd want him bringing in. Not too many of these FAs this year are going to be worth what they're getting. Last year one of the few I thought were worth what they got was out of our price range, but you have to believe we'd go for him if last year were this year-Veldaheer. This year, the only thing Gettleman is doing that's pissing me off is not giving Hardy a chance. I would understand if the market for him is just too high, but to not even talk about it is beyond ludicrous.

Or, just playing devils advocate, maybe we're being picky about whether he'll fit in our scheme and trying to determine from him if he'll be a good fit. Either way is possible.

I'm more interested in #6

The Titans blue is closer to Carolina blue than ours, but interesting to mention the word Carolina at all....interesting indeed.

lol all these tweets from random people saying Cam's in trouble now, those people must not have watched a single down of Panther football last year. Injured Oher is still better than healthy Bell. Oher could be on IR and still be an upgrade over Bell. It was a good move and for a 2 year deal, it couldn't have been much money. Great signing. Doesn't settle the problem of our OTs, but will help. And like someone else said, helps our hands not to be forced in the draft.

lol at wanting Foles over McCoy...

Really interesting. Alonso is a really good LB (at least he was his rookie year, then he got hurt. don't know what he's been like since then). Quite possibly a good trade for all parties. You never see player for player trades. Hopefully this might help them happen more often.

Cam shoulda known what he was getting himself into. All we need to do now is franchise tag him next year, then the shooter from the club accuses Cam of assault and Cam gets put on the exempt list for all but one game and we can go back to being a squeaky clean franchise.

and telling someone who writes for a website about your team knowing full well they would write about it isn't making it public? I don't believe Voth got his speculation from Gettleman. I believe he got it from someone with the organization who believes they have their finger on Gettleman's pulse, and I don't doubt it's the likely outcome, but I also don't believe it's a done deal or even remotely close to official.

Nowhere in that article did it say that decision makers on Hardy told him flat out he won't be here. You're speculating that it was a decision maker.

I don't. I fear Hardy hitting Cam cleanly and brutally like he did Palmer a couple years ago. Outside of a miracle, whoever is out LT next year would get destroyed by Hardy.

It's not so much doubt on Voth, no question he's been solid for the past year. It's just that nobody knows and it's still nothing more than spectulation. Speculation from Voth, speculation from whoever his source is on the team (if Gettleman is giving out info like this at this juncture, he's doing it wrong...and even if the info DID come from Gettleman, anything's possible. Something could change between now and March 10-when Hardy would actually OFFICIALLY be gone), and speculation from people on this forum. Few of us will deny that the chances of him staying are remote at best, but people passing off speculation as official new is misleading.

Yea, I'm not seeing the official part...

The entire concept of the exempt list is weird. As it stands now, it's an abuse of power in my opinion. The NFL, and this commissioner in particular, is woefully lacking in a system of checks and balances. I know all the owners care about are the paychecks and account balances and they're the ones that give him his power, but the whole thing reeks of bullshit. The exempt list is just another way for the commissioner to throw his weight around and move the chess pieces on his board rather than treat people fairly and work out honest solutions to problems.

His current status would be active. edit: as the overturning of his suspension intended.

I'm pretty sure Peterson didn't consent to being put back on the Exempt list the other day after winning the suspension appeal. So yea, we all read that Hardy chose the latter of the two punishments presented to him last year, but it doesn't seem accurate that a player HAS to consent to being put on it. Since I'm pretty sure Peterson didn't agree to being put back on it.

My opinion on whether he paid her off: I think he probably did. There's nothing even remotely concrete that showing he did just the court saying they have evidence (i.e. she made the accusation, but now she's not cooperating, so obviously they reached a settlement aka circumstantial evidence), but it was probably the easiest resolution to the whole ordeal so he figured he would out a chunk of money either way, either going to lawyers or going to paying her off. Giving her what she was going for from the beginning was the quickest way to put the issue in the rear view of both himself and the team. In regards to the Big Ben case, settlement papers were filed. It was formally settled. Different than Hardy's case. And in Big Ben's case, the only reason I'm more inclined to believe he's guilty is because it had become a pattern, wasn't a first time or one time thing. Similar to the whole Bill Clinton scandal. Also because he's a Steeler.

well of the three, hardy is the only one who isn't guilty. The other two made a plea deal. They both had this little thing called evidence working against them. Hardy didn't have that problem.

I don't get how hard it is to understand that this isn't like some regular joe construction worker getting a paid vacation. Even if you discount the fact that some of these guys actually enjoy the game and stopping them from doing that for a disciplinary reason (or any reason not related to performance) is inherently a punishment, it's affecting his earning potential. In the same way an employer can't impact an employee's ability to earn if the employee is summoned for jury duty or military reservist duty an nfl employer should not impact a player's reputation or ability to perform in a way that will impact their earning potential. That's a punishment.

if saying something stupid were legitimately what the problem was and they were both guilty of that then she should have been charged too. That may be what they were trying to get him for (legally) but the reality of the situation is he got in trouble because she said he harmed her and that's what he's being held accountable for by the nfl, the public and that's how she got what she was presumably after all along - her payday.

He's likely innocent if you actually paid attention to the situation and the trial. This was one of the most obvious money grabs I've seen in the nfl. At least in recent memory that i can remember. The only thing he's even remotely possibly guilty of is saying something stupid, but I imagine that'd be hard to prove.