JawnyBlaze

Because we wouldn’t be signing him for only one year. And he could be part of what actually makes Bryce (or next year’s rookie) improve, as a target the QB can have confidence in.

Last year: Mingo could be Nico. We won’t know til we get decent QB and play calling. 2022: Icky. Sure last year didn’t look good but his deficiency has been blown WAY out of proportion here. He was very good his rookie year and competent coaching can get him back on track. Barno is a decent situational pass rusher that could keep improving. Mays is solid OL depth. 2021: Horn is an all pro if he stays healthy. He was healthy most of last year. BC is a solid OL starter. Tremble is a decent TE that could still get better especially with better QB play and play calling. Chuba is, beyond all my expectations from his first two years, a decent starting RB. Not to mention rookies that looked like trash last year could actually make a leap with good coaching and playcalling. The sky isn’t falling and last year was a perfect storm of sucktitude. It all depends on Canales, his staff and Morgan.

We could be the Bengals of a few years ago. We haven’t been picking top three but we’ve been picking top ten-ish. Insert a guy like Jefferson, draft a couple sleepers (most of the Texans’ guys aren’t first round picks, not the receivers anyway) and we do have a decent amount of funds. Good coaching, nail a couple draft picks, get a couple key FAs and we’re ready to compete for this shitty division IF Bryce can just not look like the utter abomination that he was last year.

That is a narrative and we don’t have the worst roster. The Bears are probably worse. Jacksonville maybe. Washington, Atlanta maybe. This idea that we are completely untalented is emotional knee jerk reactions. We have a very talented defense and enough on offense to be ok with proper coaching. That’s the difference. The QB is a huge problem no doubt. If we had taken Stroud maybe Reich doesn’t lose his job so quick and we don’t get Canales who might be the next savant. No way to know yet. But our roster isn’t as bad as our record last year. More like the record the year before.

Sure. But likely =\= no chance

Yea entirely possible.

I meant not the worst run team ever, not that we weren’t the only team bidding on Darnold. I believe that.

I hate that narrative. Sure it’s unlikely we’ll be competitive but the Texans went from the #2 pick to the playoffs. Other teams have gone from top one or two pick to the playoffs in the next or following year. We have a chance of being competitive THIS year if Canales and Morgan are good. Unlikely, but possible.

I get your point, but no we aren’t. Hyperbole aside we aren’t the worst run team ever and might not even be the worst run team now. The Jets paid Rodger’s how much for four plays? Washington and Jacksonville would also give us a run for the title. If we dangled Bryce I guarantee you some team out there would be willing to give a 2 or 3 just in the off chance he could be salvaged.

The thing I like most about Jefferson is he doesn’t seem like a speed dependent guy. Because no I don’t think Bryce could take advantage of someone like Hill or Jamar Chase. Jefferson is a savvy route runner with amazing hands. He’s a Michael Thomas (before he got bad). That’s the kind of receiver Bryce needs.

Neither are any good, but Bryce theoretically still has trade value even if he sucks for another year. SOMEONE will be like “he was a first overall, we can get more out of him”. Darnold sucked for 3 or 4 years, wasn’t #1, and still fetched a 2nd.

I mean he’s arguably the best WR in the league and young. If anyone should be the top paid WR it’s him.

Eh, we have like the third most cap space and almost none of it is spent on offense. We can afford to break the bank on one of the pieces we’re missing the most on the team. We don’t have THAT many needs. A few needs: QB, a playmaker or two (WR among the biggest needs), an OL or two, some depth on defense. Otherwise it’s spots that could use an upgrade but not a need.

Just read on PFT the Vikings might trade Justin Jefferson, who’s due a new contract. I’d trade them Burns and #33 in a heartbeat for one of, if not the, best young receiver in the game. Think it might take more from us? How much would you guys be willing to trade? We’d be swapping a big new DE contract for a big new WR contract. ~28mil for Burns vs what, ~25mil for Jefferson? I’m less up to date on what he might cost cap wise.

Pat McAfee just referenced it on Raw. “Candace is getting rocked like those bums that rushed Cam Newton” lol

I don’t know that any of them do better catching Bryce’s wounded ducks.

I’d still try to trade Burns. I love the guy and he’s way underrated here, but we need the picks and cap space on other positions right now. Definitely throw the bag at Brown though. I saw an article earlier today where some jabroni was saying we should trade Brown lol. Adam Silver or someone like that.

Yea Norman actually wasn’t trash. Many of us were yelling at Ron “it’s my personal duty to defend older veterans at all costs” Rivera for benching him off one busted coverage. He was still solid his first year and quite good his second.

F ***** minus. The only pick that’s not an F so far is Mingo. I’d give him a C-. Didn’t see enough to completely trash the pick, effort seemed to be there, just no opportunities with the JV backup throwing him the ball.

When in doubt, never trust Person.

Well I watched every game and every throw and I think he hit one or two passes that travelled in the air over 15 yards all season. I’ve seen ONE highly suspect chart that claims he’s accurate with caveats. Ask anyone who actually watched the games. His accuracy is terrible, his placement is terrible. Sure he can make some throws some of the time, some of his throws 5-10 yards looked nice, but even a good portion of those the receiver has to unnecessarily stretch or reach back for. One of the very few passes thatbi recall that did complete for 15 or 20+, the WR had to stop, cut in and completely alter his route to get to the terrible pass. But it was a completion so it counts for Bryce even though it was a terrible pass. The number of throws where a receiver was running free wide open and he just sailed it over their head or way to one side or the other far outnumber the “nice” passes

Most important thing for him to do is work on that god awful accuracy. The decision making will come with practice reps (or not ) but he can work on hitting the broad side of a barn on his own.

That means nothing, especially for a guy like him. Just depends on the narrative the staticians want to push. Moose probably woulda been really low on a list like that too.

He liked Mingo but he wasn’t his favorite WR. Besides, Mingo has had one year with a terrible QB. Let’s see what he can do when he gets a decent QB.

I mean, you said no one. So the possibility that you didn’t actually mean no one is why threw the last part in. I have no way of knowing people’s reasoning (not to mention there’s no such thing as a legit draft analyst imo. They’re pretty much all hacks.). And even if someone switched their reason solely because of the S2 they wouldn’t admit it.