JawnyBlaze

This time next year Maye and Williams will be jags and the next draft class will be sooooo much better.

One of the top TEs, a solid WR, a good ILB and/or DE. Don’t have many names because I’ve been focusing on researching QBs

Looks like Carr is going to the Saints

They get a first for dropping to 3 and still taking the player they would have taken at 1 anyway. Might be more appealing than getting an extra first and second but missing out on the player they want and having to settle for their second or third or fourth choice.

The only reason would be Chicago not wanting to drop that far because they don’t want to miss out on their choice of defensive player and doing it that way makes it more certain for them. They might hesitate if they have to assume they’ll have to make another trade to get what they want.

That’s what I think will happen. We’ll give #9, next years first and maybe the 49ers’ second to get to 3, then trade 2024 2nd and 2025 first to Chicago to get to 1. And I’m absolutely good with that for Stroud.

Or go to 3 then turn around and add a first to it and get that #1

Option 3: spend the extra first and go to 1

Because as I’ve said since before the end of the college season, he is the most accurate, smooth, natural passer I’ve just about ever seen in college. The talent he shows on the field is independent of the team around him. I can’t remember anyone in college throwing with better placement and touch and anticipation than him in a long time and I’ve been watching football since before the Panthers existed. His biggest shortcoming is that he’s not a scrambler….ok don’t care. He can maneuver the pocket plenty well and throw better than anyone in the draft. He is legit. The only thing that could hold him back, in my opinion, is injury or bad attitude. We can’t predict either of those things, so from what I can see he’s the most sure thing possible.

There is no price too high in terms of first round picks. You can trade three, and I’d do that in a heartbeat. The only way draft picks could start getting too expensive is if it were something crazy like three firsts, three seconds, three thirds. Three firsts and a second and maybe a third is what I’m comfortable with spending to go get Stroud. You start adding proven players that’s another story, you can absolutely gut your team if you’re stupid about it. But I don’t see that happening. Maybe a scenario where it’s a 1st, a 2nd and Burns, which I’d be ok with.

All three of the top guys have their strengths but the one who is best at getting the football from his hand to the receivers’? Stroud, without question. That’s what I care about.

Jones is better than Derek Carr?!

Ew no. All black. Get rid of silver completely and white only as trim

He’s got potential. Hope he can fix that erratic accuracy. People here complained about Cam’s occasional overthrow, Richardson is Rick “Wild Thing” Vaughn before getting glasses compared to Cam.

If we don’t trade up or trade up in a way that doesn’t take either of our 2nds I would absolutely be on board with sending both 2nds to someone to move up for a pass catcher/rusher. We don’t have that many holes and the more upper tier talent we can add the closer we are to actually being contenders rather than just moving up to the middle of the pack.

Bleh no. Old, broke and inaccurate is a bad combo.

I addressed the first video in my last comment. Nice, but no. The second video wasn’t even close.

And that play was was nice, but he only shed individuals, when two guys were there he went down, Cam dragged groups. He pushed piles at the goalline. Allen is a great runner, he’s not a bulldozer when the situation calls for it like Cam. I know I’m nitpicking, and I’ve always agreed that Allen is the closest thing we’ve seen or probably will see. But the goalline dives and bulldozing was really what set him apart. He was stronger than Allen, stronger than any QB when it came to goalline situations or 4th downs in addition to being fast and elusive.

Cam was used differently. Allen is different. Not even saying he’s worse or anything, I’m a big fan of Allen. He’s similar to Cam, I’ve been saying his best comp is Cam since I was high on him in his draft. But he’s not “another Cam”. He’s a slightly better passer and a different kind of runner. I didn’t say anything about better. My point is that he’s just not Cam. The combination of really good passer, long speed, and bulldozer is not a combo we’ll likely see again at QB

Heh nice. Didn’t click since YouTube won’t let us embed it

Show me something like this before even thinking about saying he is as physical as Cam was https://youtu.be/B0gDD0YYsb8

That’s one play and he got stuffed immediately on contact…he just reached out. If anything that proves my point lol

I said he’s the closest but no, I’ve never seen him do what Cam did almost every game on the goal line. I don’t mean “running between the 20s and runs into a LB”. I mean goalline battering ram.