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Everyone is taking that 1 picture of him and deciding he is dumpy and slow but if you watch him play that isn't true. He makes good decisions, is elusive and moves well in the pocket. In college guys don't focus on football alone and aren't pushed like in the NFL. He wont ever look like Cam but he doesn't need to. And if we pick up Jones and he ends up being a good backup then he was on a rookie contract and cheap, no huge deal. Versus given up to 5 or 6 first round picks between players and picks for a known quantity. Our system isn't built around a dual threat QB but a highly accurate quick thinking smart QB who is elusive in the pocket. He has a good deep ball and can make all the throws and understands the game. It is very hard to find an athletic QB who has all those qualities as well. The fact that Houston wants so much for Watson suggests how difficult and rare it is find a guy who checks all the boxes.

No doubt that Alabama is a powerhouse and they benefit from superior talent in most games. But you can't paint every QB from Alabama the same exact way. Truth is Alabama was a force because of Jones not in spite of him. And while it isn't Lances fault he didn't play but one game in 400 days it isn't something to ignore and act as if it wasn't important. And let's remember that North Dakota State in their division has a talent advantage just as big as Alabama but they have a much lower level of competition.

I know Mond is the surprise here but assuming that Simms knows what it takes as a QB to make it in the NFL given he saw a bunch, he certainly had good success and put up good numbers in the SEC. I think the most interesting is putting Jones behind Wilson and Lawrence. Seems if he was there at 8 he might be a deal if Simms track record holds.

Mayo was expendable not being their starter anymore and the Giants needing cap room. He would be a good addition on a 1 year deal with no guaranteed money as a backer/starter given how awful Whitehead was

Lance is far from assured of even being a legitimate NFL quarterback. You need more than athleticism to be a great quarterback. He is the highest risk of any QB who may be taken in the first round. Jones is a proven winner playing in a similar style to what we will employ. Funny how a guy who has played 1 game in the last 400 days is going to be better than the guy who just won the national championship.

He isn't a statue. Chris Sums has his rankings out and he has Jones thirf and says he may no have as big a cannon as some of the others guys but is athletic, moves well in the pocket and can make all the throws https://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/chris-simms-2021-nfl-draft-qb-ranking/10hih93rbmjmk18ot7mmdu5kqj

I think Jones would be fine in our system. We don't need a wildly athletic quarterback. We need one who is a quick thinker, accurate and knows the game. Jones is all those things. I think the hype to find the next great athlete at QB negates all the ones over the years that have been very effective without being built like a linebacker. And seems to me it easier to take a smart football guy and make him stronger and more durable than it is to find a great athlete and turn him into a quarterback.

Not unhappy we won't get the opportunity to kill the franchise over one player. If our system is as good as Brady thinks we should be fine with a rookie QB we can develop. If we had mortgaged the farm for Watson we would not have the defense to compete in this division for years.

Great negotiating strategy to get a deal. We will pay anything. Name your price. Crazy if you aren't priceline.

That is the point with stats. They are numbers plain and simple. The analysis is key and what gives numbers context. And our system as it was run last year doesn't focus on the running back as simply a running back but someone who can block, run and catch passes which is why McCaffrey is so valuable. It isn't looking simply at a position but how that position is used by that team thus defining the value of that player to that team. That is why as valuable as Davis was last year he was a partial replacement for CMC who can do everything Davis can do and much more.

As a Panther fan in February it makes sense to be positive and looking forward to an off-season and training camp and some return to normalcy as we hopefully transition away from Covid 19 as vaccines become more available. Tepper has his team in place and we will see what happens. It is way too soon to be negative. Plenty of time for that in the fall if things don't work out again......

And gee I thought football was a team sport. I guess the emphasis of Madden and Fantasy football has made everyone all about the player and not the team. I though all real football fans knew that.

That isn't true either. He didn't compare that well to true slot or wide receivers largely due to limited opportunities. The majority of the time his passes were behind the line of scrimmage and there he dominated. He had done whatever asked and had still been used as a primary RB. That doesn't mean he isnt good in the slot given how elusive he is in open space. He hasn't really played much in this system. Let's see how 2021 goes.

I don't think as a running back, CMC is responsible for wins or losses so that is pretty ridiculous to mention. He has been our most productive player until his injury. And honestly he was force fed because we had a quarterback with a bum arm and few other assets on offense. Even with everyone keying on him he was very productive. You way underestimate his value because of 2020.

CMC isn't a running back and isn't paid as one. He is the best hybrid back who can run up the middle and play the slot better than most receivers. He is a Swiss army knife who is arguably the best player in the team. The only caveat is now saying when he is healthy. Comparing him to just running backs isn't really apples to apples.

Maybe we can be prevented from doing what we seem determined to do by other teams with better trade bait. We might still be saved from ourselves.

With contracting cap space there may be several veterans who are looking for new teams

That is it really. What if we give up Burns, Chinn and 3 first rounders for Watson and then he gets hurt behind our porous line. Then we have a crappy offense and an even crappier defense and no first rounders for years. If the system is so great, then why do you need Watson to run it at the expense of decimating your defense? And can a rookie come in and run the system by moving up in the draft giving up far less in compensation.

Contracts in year 1 can be cheap if the salary is the signing bonus which is prorated. If we can sign Samuel to a 4 year 40 million contract with a 15 million signing bonus we could pay as little as 6 or 7 million in 2021. I figure he would be well worth that. By year 3 there would be no guarantee money and dead cap money wouldn't be bad.

Isn't this the time when everyone lies and you can't take anything too seriously while teams try to not tip their hand? Why isn't this likely more of the same??

If you are looking for a raw guy with potential which may or may not materialize then pick Lance but if you want the most pro ready QB in the rookie class go with Jones. Is he the best, no. But he would be solid like he was at Alabama. And for those who say he needs a good offense around him, we are a couple of linemen short of a very good offense. I don't know about every scheme but he would be solid in ours.

The idea isn't that Stafford is equal to Watson simply to me that Stafford may cost much less making him a better value given where we are. Would you rather give Detroit this year's first for Stafford or give at least your next 3 first rounders for Watson or even more. If Watson gets hurt in the next 4 years you got nothing and no first rounder. Given so many guys get hurt in this league I don't know that if he is much cheaper that Stafford isn't the better option. No one would say Stafford is better straight up.

Here is a good list of players who coached in the league. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/869309-top-26-former-nfl-players-turned-coaches.amp.html

Keep in mind that once he is traded we inherit his salary but not the prorated signing bonus so in 2021 his salary is 10.5 million and even in 2022 it is 35 million. So it isn't until 2023 it gets high and that could be renegotiated. His salary is actually pretty doable.

Washington is getting what they need. Someone who will get Rivera the guys he wants and who has a great relationship with him. At this point it seems to be a good plan. Just because Hurney's future wasn't here doesn't mean he won't be effective working with an old school coach who believes similarly to him. Neither Hurney or Rivera were a good fit for our analytics driven approach but for old school traditional football they both seem to fit in fairly well. Hurney can train his successor.