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Again, I am not talking about the coaching strategy for preseason. I am talking about the way media and fans portray or view preseason results. You quoted my post bruv and you have now twice misinterpreted what I meant. I get it, you are disappointed after last week's showing. But know this, Dave Canales and Dan Morgan are not concerned with your glimmer of hope. Also, I heard and viewed them looking really good in the joint practice. I am disappointed that it didn't translate to Saturday, but I will never truly freak out about this team until they look bad into week 3 or 4 of the regular season.

I am not talking about the strategy as much as I am talking about how fans and media view preseason.

That man is not broke. He just know he has to tighten up his spending.

I don't put very much into preseason. It is largely for confirmation bias. If the team or players do somethings well it confirms your hope they will be good. If they do somethings terrible, it confirms that they still have a long way to go. The main thing I took away from the video was how are we going to evaluate anyone with such terrible QB play from Dalton and Plummer. I am thinking after starters get pulled meh, Dalton will make some noise. He is cooked and then Plummer comes in and looks like he has made zero progression. That to me is a reason for lack of effort on offense. There is frustration from the poor QB play. Plummer was scared to pull the trigger. Plus we still are building depth and have a lot of work to do in that regard. Our backups are mostly mediocre to garbage. It just looks like they are giving minimal effort because they aren't good. Then throw on top of all that, Canales and Evero are using the preseason to let their underlings call plays which is not exciting to fans or players. Lastly, I don't like how in the video he was wishy washy about joint practices vs. preseason games. The word out is that coaches value those practices much more and the word was that we looked at least competent in joint practice against the Texans. I have noticed that when we joint practice with a team leading up to a preseason game, the game product looks terrible for us.

Exactly, even with injuries, I can't see too many more of those Jamar Chase 63 yard touchdowns and our DC keep his job.

Well said, I have parroted the same thing to anyone that would listen since. Watching football that year, you had everyone from high school players, college players, league players, male fans, female fans, little kids, and the elderly mimicking Cam. Everyone was paying attention especially after the Thanksgiving game. They went directly after him and McNabbed him out of the league when it was clear he was becoming the face of it. Instead of leaning in and making the money, they let the league be faceless for a few years while taking unprecedented measures to close the window on our run. From allowing a Broncos' fan to head the officiating crew in the Championship game, to scheduling the same two teams to start the following season, to allowing the league MVP to be targeted in games, to never showing any of the 2015 season's games except the last one on their network, they Men in Black neuralyzed the world regarding the Panthers. All that they left was a narrative that Cam was playing one on one with Von Miller and was scared to jump on a fumble.

Yeah, that is a growing consensus and I concur. Hasn't shown much more than thin gimmicks(i.e. run scheme), obvious blitzes, and setting up dbs for blown coverages. I feel he could get canned even if we are winning. Maybe I want that scenario.

Seems you shut a lot of that down. There basically is no comeback for this post. Good job! The I don't want to write this kid off but I am going to write this kid off posts and takes have been insane about XL.

You cannot be this obtuse. Regardless if they are standing or having their hand in the dirt, four players lined up across from the OL is a 4-3. We need three DL with their hands in the dirt if we are to stop the run. See the alignment below. It is two DTs and the OLBs for a 4 down front. This is a four man front and it makes zero sense. We ran it all last year. Again it is a junk defense that is destined to fail. They have drafted players for a 3-4, not a 4-3 and the alignment gives way to easy running lanes. Our defense will continue to look terrible until we make a change. I don't care if its scheme or Coordinator, but something must change.

Cause of Gettlemagic! You know why!

The thing that surprises me, also infuriates me is the small misses in editing these days. In this article it said Scourton was a third round pick. Yes, Cat Crave does go with sensationalist headlines and once you click its nonsense. Who would think we'd long for the Gaston Gazette days!

I was ok with the mentor aspect of keeping Dalton, but wow has he fallen off the deep end. The slow behind the WR interception was awful. I keep hearing our WRs created no separation, but on that particular play dude was wide open and Dalton couldn't get it to him with a clean pocket. Next year, we need to address the backup QB spot haaaaaard!

With them letting Clowney go, I thought we were going to be more aggressive in playing young guys. Scott has held on though and he looks completely lost. I fully expected to see Ransom or Richardson with the 1s on Friday and was completely thrown off when I seen Scott out there looking lost.

I am not a huge fan of the 3-4, but if you are going to run it run the 3-4. This nonsense that Evero does where its two down lineman and what is supposed to be our OLBs standing up over OTs is a 4-3! If we do not have Bobby Brown at nose, DB and AShawn at tackles with our OLBs standing up, we will continued to get gashed on the ground like last year. His gimmick defense is going to get us killed again having 250 to 270lb LBs trying to anchor our run defense is on par with Phil Snow schemes.

There is going to be some growing pains, but with Dave scheming his plays up, teams are going to have trouble with this offense. In the Cleveland game you were playing against a team who practiced with you, against these vanilla plays, and looked better because of it. Like someone mentioned earlier, if our TEs step up, we will be hard to game plan against this year.

I'm all for intensity but guys need to can it. It was a routine hit and he didn't hit him hard enough to hurt him, just hard enough to knock him on his arse. Chuba bounced up quick enough to start fighting which meant he was in no way hurt or injured. We are going to be a physical football team and we are going to have to be able to have some physicality in practice. That not playing/practicing hard and not getting reps in preseason was what had us looking so inept the first of the season last year!

Exactly, insert nice things and not being able to have them quote here.

I cannot stand them. They are winning the division repeatedly now only because we are failing to put a decent product on the field. As we slowly become relevant again, this division is wide open. Baker Mayfield does not deserve to be handed a division trophy every year due solely to the ineptitude of the other teams in the division. I also hate that Lavonte David gets to play a seemingly twenty year career and we only got a blink of an eye with Luke.

I have always thought that was crazy since they show nothing else from that season at all!

The Panthers are not cutting Jimmy Horn. With all of the options they have for roster construction now, plus what he brings to the table, he is here this year.

ESPN 8 the OCHO was funny when it wasn't really on the horizon.

Moore can be put in one of the vet spots on IR. No one will be checking for him at the start of the season. But I would be very perturbed if we tried to go all Gettlemagic and stash an obvious talent like Horn on practice squad like we did Butker. If we can get through this year, next year it will be obvious Moore and AT will be gone, starting namely with AT's contract.

Thanks for the clarification! People have slowly crept in with the narrative that we are needlessly bashing women when referring to any disdain regarding Nicole.

And add on the inclusion of his wife and it has been total garbage truck juice. I am happy about the changes and the trend upward, but they have to know consistent winning is the only thing to win back the entire fanbase.

And that is crazy how through numerous regimes, coaches, owners, and staff, we have never highly drafted these two positions. The TMAC pick was definitely a non Panthers draft move, so maybe as we grow we draft an all world safety to take over down the road. It seems like Baltimore always has a crazy good safety.