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Careful or he's going to tell you come up with a list of QBs that meet some ridiculously narrow set of criterion to prove to him that Sam won't be some big failure, as if his pinheaded opinion and approval means anything at all. The guy is a troll.... one of a few around here I'm losing my patience with.

I'm excited. Can't wait to see him play.

Loving the T&A TE combo already. Giddyup.

I used to flip back and forth between direct and dish because I live out in the boonies. Got too frustrating and too expensive so I quit. YouTube tv (for sports...mainly football. My dad also uses my account for sports and news) Netflix (had been using their service for years renting DVDs. Just made sense to switch to the streaming service. (My parents and sis also use this account.) Amazon (was a prime member for years before I watching. Sooo...I was paying for it anyways. Don't consider that an extra expense.) Hulu (I use my sister's account). When I find a show I want to watch on something I'm not subscribed to, I'll join long enough to watch it and then discontinue service.

I expect lumps. As long as I see continual growth I am quite ok with it.

Ron tapped the brakes and we had cracks show the last several games of the year. There were signs of a problem and the broncos were able to exploit it.

They got the wind knocked out for what should have been just a moment. Then they had to play both the broncos and the refs. A good coach would have been able to 1) get their heads right and 2) adjust their gameplan to put something together that works. We didn't have a good coach. Cam would have been able to get that team fired back up. The broncos knew it and the refs knew it and that's why the headhunting happened. They (broncos and refs) took Cam out of the game the only way they could.

I think he's the guy, but if he's not they aren't going to hold on to him for years trying to prove he is. This isn't Hurney's team anymore. It's not Rivera or Fox's team. These guys will make bold moves to try and find the right guy and move on quickly if it doesn't pan out.

They could do any damn thing they wanted because they knew the refs weren't going to call anything on them.

Agreed. Their defense was legit, but we had the better team. We got outcoached (and then there were the refs).

We could have won that game. Broncos attacked cam with cheap/illegal shots and late hits one after another after another after another while the refs looked the other way. They had to do this because the panthers would have won. Their defense was good, but Cam was better. They had to take him out by whatever means was necessary. That said there were things that could have been done and adjustments made to offer Can more protection. They could have known that the Broncos ere going to spend time studying everything we do knowing they we rarely deviated from what we did. They didn't have to spy on us like the Patriots did because we didn't do anything differently heading into the game. We acted like it was just another rather than throwing everything we had into the biggest game if all of their careers. They weren't ready for it. That moment was too big for them because Rivera didn't get them ready. His lack of leadership and apathy towards change cost them a chance to win.

Sounds like another brilliant coaching decision made by Rivera's predecessor. Even if you have confidence in your strategy, you plan for failure and you adapt. Rivera &co. didn't. They rarely ever did. And when they did, it wasn't by choice and they were never truly committed to it. When it mattered, Rivera always reverted back to his original tendencies. Riverboat Ron was an illusion. Paddleboat Ron was the reality.

It was his team. He didn't adjust. Team wasn't ready. When things went sideways he didn't adjust nor did he help get the teams head back in the game. Lots of things working against us, including the refs, but what Ron could have managed and controlled better, he didn't. They looked ok out of the gate, but refs knocked the wind out of us (it was a catch) and we struggled to breathe the rest of the game. We needed a reset. We needed a leader to get us right mentally. We couldn't depend on Cam because he had his own battle to fight trying to dodge defensive players taking late and dirty hits without consequence. They needed a HC to help them get things right. It wouldn't have taken much, but the job was too much for him.

Super impressive. Few interesting tidbits for me in that list... the bucs have 2 guys on that list (well...3 but they can't take credit for Antonio Brown, but he's still there). That's a big reason they got a ring and a big reason why drafting a stud like Horn was necessary. Also... surprised to see Koren Robinson so high and Calvin Johnson so low. Of course Koren was 21 when he was a rookie but Megatron was still just 22 as a rookie. Nothing poignant about that... just interesting to me.

The only thing I could see holding him back from another 1k yard season is the number of targets he'll get because of attention he will be garnering and a solid WR corps presenting more open options for Sam. But it's looking like DJ is about as money as Smitty was where you don't need him to be totally open...just get the ball near him and it's his. This offense is going to be a 'pick your poison' type of deal, though. Defenses have to worry about DJ, CMC, Robbie (hopefully), Terrace, Ian Thomas (j/k...but seriously Donald and Tremble) and Shi (I'm a believer). And then there's Chubs who will probably see the field a lot. And also Sam is a threat to run so they've got to watch that as well. With all those weapons...DJ could find his coverage just thin enough that he can do even more with what he's got. The guy is a YAC beast already and with a spread think defense he could hit 1k fairly easily.

He'd rather see us lose with PJ than win with Sam.

It wasn't easy.

I had to put it on mute half way through. That guy's voice....oye. Liked watching the clips of Brown. He's gonna beast this year.

• While the Panthers waived quarterback/tight end/wideout Tommy Stevens on Tuesday to make room for former Ohio State WR C.J. Saunders, Rhule said some of the players who have been cut recently could end up back with the team at Wofford. He also indicated there will be more roster churn to come. “This is a time when we’re going to see as many people as possible.” Saunders worked with the returners during Wednesday’s special-teams period. Looks like we're going to be seeing a lot of new faces in the next few weeks and we'll be seeing a lot of faces go that go. In the middle of it all we'll be sitting here asking what the point is thinking that they are a bunch of idiots that don't know what they are doing. Then, when TC happens, we'll see some that we had cut brought back in to replace people who replaced them and it will make it look even more chaotic. What will be happening, though, is that they are just going to be looking at more and more and more prospects trying to bring in the best possible ones to training camp. And in the weeks of training camp as cuts are made by other teams we might see more. It may seem like ineptitude to the less shrewd and it might seem like madness to the clueless, but it's a sign that they are going to turn over any rock they can to create the best possible roster from top to bottom. *Saw this that @TheSpecialJuan posted in the Stevens/Saunders thread. Copied from a Joe Person article in The Athletic which I don't have a membership so I can't post the link.

The Robbie/Terrace situation almost reminds me of Keyshawn/Jarrett.... hopefully with better results (I'm confident it will be, though).

It's a different ball game. Yes it's football but it's college ball. They have a loooong running history and a large market and it's not trying to come off as an alternative to the NFL. Those guys aren't pro yet. The ones who have plans to go pro...it's not their dream to go to the USFL. It's to play in the NFL.

Oye. They all fail because there is only one pro league. Not enough people are interested in watching the guys who couldn't cut it in the NFL.