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Will do what? Waste cap space and draft picks?

It's not like he's some Will Grier scrub.

Hopefully Corral shows enough that we don't have to. If we can get 6 games out of him we should be able to get a good idea about him.

I think yes, especially him being a rookie. You're going to naturally want to rely more heavily on the run game for any rookie. I think the offense needs to definitely be built around what he's good at and take into consideration what he's not too good at (the long ball). Also totally agreed on him needing to not try to bulldoze defenders.

Rhule is the real wild card here. Will Rhule trust a rookie over a vet, even if the rookie looks to be better? I don't know. He sure didn't do that last year. I fully suspect that regardless of how well Corral does, Rhule won't trust him over Sammy and will be forced to make the change.... probably due to injury.

Alright.... Once again you've gotten tiresome. Bye again.

True and he got hurt scrambling in the pocket. He does take on defenders a good bit and I'm not crazy about that, but like I said he's also good about sliding and I'd like to see a lot more of that when he takes off running.

Hmmm.... Lol I guess I blocked that out of my head. Not surprised, though. I mean he's the guy that tried trading up for Clausen.

I see that and get it, but what I see gives a lot of room for optimism...and not the forced kind that I tried to have with Sammy. If he doesn't pan out, fine....then we swing again. Corral is the QB I was hoping for going into the draft, so I was sold on him already. I mean I wanted either Icky or Neal or some top LT because I 1) thought the talent better and 2) thought the need was more important to address, but I would have been ok him getting drafted in the first, especially over the other QB options just based on his potential/ceiling and ability to reach that potential I saw.

I never saw anything that said Hurney had a first round grade on Grid, but whatever...it was cokehead Hurney. You're not comparing players. You're comparing draft spots. Again, that's just not a good comparison. Again... whatever. Having watched both guys, Corral has/had a lot more to offer. Draft position doesn't mean poo. What they do and are capable of doing on the field and if it can translate to the pros is all that matters. You either watch or you make assumptions. I watched. I watched most of the guys that were in contention for being drafted at QB this year (thanks to long haul covid I had a lot of time on my hands) and what I saw from Corral I really liked. He wasn't perfect by any means, but what I saw was a guy who was tough and fought hard, had a short memory when he made mistakes, who made things happen when things broke down, and whose talent he brings to the table can easily be translated to the pros. The guy does a good job of scanning the field, taking advantage of what the defense gives him. He's not a gun slinger, imo, which is fine because even though he's got a cannon he's not as accurate, but in the short/intermediate game he's super accurate and man is he quick getting that ball out. As a runner he's tough, but he also knows how and when to slide (which is something Cam wasn't so good at as a rookie). He's great at hitting players in stride and he's great throwing on the scramble. I mean there's so much I liked about his game and he's exciting to watch. He's easily better than Sammy (which the bar isn't set really high) and I'm hoping that we do a good job of building the offense around him and getting him ready. With MacAdoo running the offense, I'm sure we can get that done. He's super quick and decisive. If you want to run a fast super uptempo offense, this is the kind of guy you want. On two minute drills, he's the kind of guy you want. On short yardage plays, with his legs, he's the kind of guy you want. What I saw and heard about him in getting the players charged up, especially on important plays and situations, this guy is the type guy you want. He's a natural on RPO and read option and play action. He's smooth in those type plays....very Cam-like. Seriously, I like him. He's not as good as Cam by any means, but he can bring a lot of the same type things. Basically, Matt Corrall can make watching the panther offense fun again.

Most weren't? I think that was at least half the discussion about him yesterday and for much of the draft process.

@TheSpecialJuan Why would you want to start this thread? You that desperate for attention? The article is from 2017 and we all know about this now.

You know.... I'm fine giving Rhule the late round picks and UDFAs. I mean what's the worst that can happen? It's not like he'll keep his pets on the roster just because of a connection he had with them, right?

Don't get me wrong, I would much rather have Foles than Darnold, and I know the coaching staff and FO would as well. Probably the whole team would rather have him, but we're stuck. We screwed up with that fifth year option. Vote of confidence shot us in the foot and now we've got to limp. Serves us right.

Can't/won't cut Darnold.

Corrall is not Grier. No one ever talked seriously about him being a starter. There really was nothing in his play that would suggest that he would be anything more than a back up and the only reason he was selected was because Hurney liked his interview. No one else would have likely drafted him until in much later rounds, if at all. Meanwhile, Corrall has plenty of dynamic qualities that can translate into the pro game. Don't get hung up on this whole "he wasn't drafted until the third round" thing. The guy has legit potential as a starter and he's definitely worth giving him a shot. I've said this before, lumping him with Grier just because both were selected in the third is at best unfair and at worst lazy. Expectation is/was vastly different between the two, as is their talent, as is their potential.

Obviously not meant to be taken seriously.

The only way they get anyone else in that QB room is if they get rid of Sam, which they can't/won't do because of how much they've invested in him and that no one will take him. They are essentially stuck with him and that contract. They'll try to make the best of it and he'll help take the pressure off Corral to start right away. But we need to get away from this idea that they might bring another vet in or, even less likely, trade for someone. Baker ain't coming here. Neither is Jimmy G. The only other QB that might join the locker room is Cam and i don't even see that happening. And they aren't getting rid of PJ, either, mainly for sentimental reasons rhule has.

Best thing he can do is just sit back and keep his mouth shut and let the rest of the coaches coach. Of course i'll say Snow should do the same. Just stay quiet and out of the way.

With Campen, he could be great depth and even a starter in a year or two.

Said it before, it was a win after getting Icky. Adding in Corrall it it solidifies it as an A+ draft. Didn't matter what we did after that.

I'll just say I've heard enough from Panthro to not doubt what he says. Now as far as Corrall vs. Willis vs. Pickett, it could be that the board was evolving and in flux throughout the process.

He should be. He holds no value other than sentimental with Rhule. He is a waste of roster space.

Just so any of you know, Panthro is one of those cats who would know. If he says it, it needs to be listened to because what he hears happens. It's not a lot of stuff he hears, but when he hears and he shares (which sometimes is just with the mods) it is spot on.

It would be good to give him a Derek Anderson type older brother like Cam had the benefit of, but that Darnold contract is an albatross around our necks. Maybe Cam could be that for Corrall. It would be nice. I just wish we didn't have Sammy and that contract. It just really fugs stuff up for us.