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Knox Bardeen of BR need not jump the gun on WR corps


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Also, he is right by saying our WRs from last year are gone. They are, we dont have a single WIDE receiver who caught a pass for us. But we do have our leading receiver from last year. (TE Olsen) Besides, its not like we had 1,000 yard WR, 800 yard WR, and a 750 yard WR. Their production just really wasnt THAT great. Wont be difficult to match or even surpass. Just not that big of a deal in all reality.

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There is so much fail in the original article and many posts here.  First of all there is no way to compare what a receiver will do for example in the Eagles spread/WCO with what we do in a vertical air coryell offense.  Secondly why was there no mention that Ginn was a has been until Shula and Newton reinvigorated his career.  If our offense made him so productive then why won't the same thing happen with Avant or Underwood.  Third Cotchery had a great season last year, really the best he had with Pittsburgh and he scored as many TDs as LaFell and Ginn did combined.

Who compares Avant to Ginn?  Ginn compares to Underwood as a receiver and based on their numbers the year before they came to Carolina, Underwood was significantly better and has more upside as a receiver.

 

Avant compares favorably to LaFell and certainly Cotchery and Benjamin combined surely will surpass Smith's production and give us some redzone targets we have sorely missed.

 

Truth is that I firmly believe that the 2014 receivers will be much better than the 2013 versions even if King and McNutt don't make the squad. And the whole bit about Cam not throwing a good deep ball borders on idiocy.  Shula didn't call a ton of deep passes because our makeshift offensive line with all the injuries at guard couldn't hold up long enough for guys to get deep.  And Benjamin won't be a deep threat given he isn't that fast, Underwood will be.  But Benjamin will be a huge redzone target, and a force on crossing patterns and seam routes.

 

If this is the best we get from Bardeen, he needs to go back and do some more homework.  This whole article is joke from start to finish. 

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