Starting a team from scratch

[camycamcan]

we could have had him for that second overall pick, too

we did nt have #2 that year I think

[FuFuLamePoo]

we did nt have #2 that year I think

yuh huh. That's when it was become evident Harden wouldn't be able to be resigned in OKC and rumors swirling they offered him to us for the second overall pick. They wanted Brad Beal to be his replacement

[FuFuLamePoo]

Andre Drummond

what

[FuFuLamePoo]

If true, Cho made the right call rejecting that offer. I would not trade MKG for Harden.

HAHAHA WHAT

[JJman Returns]

If true, Cho made the right call rejecting that offer. I would not trade MKG for Harden.

Harden is a top 3 scorer and he can rebound and pass as well. His defense is weak, and he's a bit of a douchebag. But we'd be in the playoffs with him.

[JJman Returns]

While I get where you're coming from, having a scorer like Harden is something almost no teams get. He's like a much better Monta Ellis. In the East, Harden could carry us to the playoffs single handedly (well, with a few talent around him).

I do believe MKG would fit a ton of systems better then Harden. I also believe our system is only missing a primary scorer. So Harden would fit well here IMO.

[†William Moore†]

I agree with the above long post, team basketball wins games.

 

Look at my Hawks for an example. We used to be "stacked". Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Al Horford, Jamal Crawford, tons of weapons. The problem was all of these guys, sans Al, were only concerend with their own numbers. JJ became known as Iso Joe. Crawford either scored 30 or scored 0. Smith stopped playing defense and started chucking jumpshots.

 

Fast forward a few years and we're balling. Does our team have as much talent now as they did back then? No. But they play the right way. Team ball will always win.

 

Guys like Irving, Westbrook(him especially, the ultimate stat padder), Harden, Iso Joe etc. are more concerned with the crossovers and highlights than a championship. They won't win you games.

 

From what I've seen of MKG, he's an excellent hustler and lock down defender. He's not looking to take over the game. Honestly, I agree, I would take MKG over any of the above guys to start a team. He knows his role and doesn't force points on offense. 

 

Smart basketball > Sportscenter basketball 

[FuFuLamePoo]

Harden is one of the 5 best players in the league, he's carrying the Rockets to a playoff birth in the stacked west.  Dwight Howard hasn't even played half the season.  we'd be the 4 seed at worst in the East with Harden.  I love MKG more than anyone, he's my favorite player in the league but holy poo stop drinking the purple kool aid.  Harden is an absolute super star, and you can make a strong argument he deserves to be the MVP this year

[JJman Returns]

Agreed. And calling Harden an "ISO chucker" is way too much of an understatement.

Harden is an elite scorer who knows how to carry a team offensively. As stated above, he's lead a relatively weakly talented team to a playoff birth in a dominate West without Dwight Howard.

[†William Moore†]

Weak talent team? They walked into ATL and nearly beat us without Harden or Howard playing. They were up 20 at one point.

 

Beverly, Jones, Ariza, Smith, Brewer, KJ, Motiejunas, Jason Terry, are all very good players. Let's not act like this is LeBron's Cavaliers. Those guys alone could easily finish .500 for a season. 

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Harden is like Kyrie to me.

Great offensive player but doesn't play a sh*t of defense and because of that I want nothing to do with either.

In our system they would do more harm than good.

[bLACKpANTHER]

Fyi, since that youtube video of Hardens "shortcomings" on defense went viral - he stepped up his defense this year

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Fyi, since that youtube video of Hardens "shortcomings" on defense went viral - he stepped up his defense this year

Good for him, I haven't watched many Rockets games but it's nice to hear that he's stepped up and isn't in it for just the fame and the paycheck.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Anthony Davis is still the correct answer.

If he was in a big-time market he'd be getting MVP considerations.

He should be a fricken Hornet.

But I still love you MKG.