Top 10 2014/2015 WR prospects

[C47]

I highly doubt there was a team in the draft that had OBJ rated higher than Watkins or Evans, they were considered league wide as the top two guys. OBJ was obviously a top 15 player, but Watkins and Evans were rated in the top 10 on most boards. No one could have possibly predicted that Randy Moss poo he pulled.

 

Eh....you say that, but I remember a lot of people who watch tape having OBJ the #1 WR by the end. 

[GoobyPls]

You still haven't listed one reason why Watkins was a better "prospect" (outside of saying he didn't outperform Landry, like that actually means anything), so I'm going to say it again....

Cool story, bro.

More explosive, faster, better at yac, route running, hands just as good, taller, bigger, stronger.

Let me not even start breaking down rookie seasons, cause Watkins was stuck in the worst situation out of any of the first round receivers.

[C47]

Sammy is a better route runner than OBJ? More explosive? Alright....we'll have to agree to disagree here. 

[t96]

More explosive, faster, better at yac, route running, hands just as good, taller, bigger, stronger.

Let me not even start breaking down rookie seasons, cause Watkins was stuck in the worst situation out of any of the first round receivers.

 

Watkins was never more explosive or better at route running, and his hands were not as good.

 

How was his situation any worse than Beckham's? Or Evans'?

[GoobyPls]

Watkins was never more explosive or better at route running, and his hands were not as good.

How was his situation any worse than Beckham's? Or Evans'?

Except he was that's why every analyst had him ranked higher, and that's also why he was drafted ahead of every other receiver.

Lol Beckham had a pro bowl QB, whose known for force feeding receivers.

Evans wasn't even the number 1 option on his team

[t96]

Except he was that's why every analyst had him ranked higher, and that's also why he was drafted ahead of every other receiver.

Lol Beckham had a pro bowl QB, whose known for force feeding receivers.

Evans wasn't even the number 1 option on his team

 

He was drafted ahead based on potential because of his size and speed. His route running and explosiveness was (and still is) nowhere near Beckham's. And while his hands weren't/aren't bad, Beckham's were the best in the draft. Of course Beckham was a much better prospect and that's shown by how each performed their rookie year. And don't even start on how good each rookie WR's "situation" was. Beckham's stats were not a product of some "great situation." He was thrust into the #1 WR role after Cruz' injury and was the sole threat on that offense, drawing double coverage every snap. If you watched the film of him and other WRs, you'd see that Beckham had a truly elite year. I hesitate to call him elite because of the small sample size, but last year was no fluke. Beckham excels in all the different aspects of being a WR.

 

A pro bowl QB who had a 57.5% completion percentage, 6.9 yards per attempt, 18 to 27 TD to INT ratio the year before...

[GoobyPls]

He was drafted ahead based on potential because of his size and speed. His route running and explosiveness was (and still is) nowhere near Beckham's. And while his hands weren't/aren't bad, Beckham's were the best in the draft. Of course Beckham was a much better prospect and that's shown by how each performed their rookie year. And don't even start on how good each rookie WR's "situation" was. Beckham's stats were not a product of some "great situation." He was thrust into the #1 WR role after Cruz' injury and was the sole threat on that offense, drawing double coverage every snap. If you watched the film of him and other WRs, you'd see that Beckham had a truly elite year. I hesitate to call him elite because of the small sample size, but last year was no fluke. Beckham excels in all the different aspects of being a WR.

A pro bowl QB who had a 57.5% completion percentage, 6.9 yards per attempt, 18 to 27 TD to INT ratio the year before...

Did you even watch Watkins at Clemson? His route running and explosiveness was second to none, Beckham was no where near the finished product Watkins was.

Watkins was the bills number 1 since training camp, he had no Cruz to take pressure off him. And Eli did force feed him he led all rookie if not all receivers period in targets per game, he almost led the league in interceptions when targeted.

And yes Eli is a probowl QB, whose a 2 time SB MVP. Have you taken a look at all the receivers that leave Eli?

They basically become irrelevant.

It's nice to be captain hindsight huh?

[thefuzz]

We can beat around the bush all day on who was/is the better WR/prospect.

 

 

I can tell you 1 thing though, give me the WR with the routes, and hands, and I will beat your speed/size guy all day long.

 

 

Sammy is explosive, big, strong, etc...but he doesn't have the routes or hands that OBJ does.

[t96]

Did you even watch Watkins at Clemson? His route running and explosiveness was second to none, Beckham was no where near the finished product Watkins was.

Watkins was the bills number 1 since training camp, he had no Cruz to take pressure off him. And Eli did force feed him he led all rookie if not all receivers period in targets per game, he almost led the league in interceptions when targeted.

And yes Eli is a probowl QB, whose a 2 time SB MVP. Have you taken a look at all the receivers that leave Eli?

They basically become irrelevant.

It's nice to be captain hindsight huh?

 

Why do I even bother...

[GoobyPls]

Why do I even bother...

No response? thought so

[C47]

Did you even watch Watkins at Clemson? His route running and explosiveness was second to none, Beckham was no where near the finished product Watkins was.

Watkins was the bills number 1 since training camp, he had no Cruz to take pressure off him. And Eli did force feed him he led all rookie if not all receivers period in targets per game, he almost led the league in interceptions when targeted.

And yes Eli is a probowl QB, whose a 2 time SB MVP. Have you taken a look at all the receivers that leave Eli?

They basically become irrelevant.

It's nice to be captain hindsight huh?

 

 

Unless you got out in front of hindsight and said OBJ was a better prospect long before either was drafted, sure. 

[t96]

Did you even watch Watkins at Clemson? His route running and explosiveness was second to none, Beckham was no where near the finished product Watkins was.

Watkins was the bills number 1 since training camp, he had no Cruz to take pressure off him. And Eli did force feed him he led all rookie if not all receivers period in targets per game, he almost led the league in interceptions when targeted.

And yes Eli is a probowl QB, whose a 2 time SB MVP. Have you taken a look at all the receivers that leave Eli?

They basically become irrelevant.

It's nice to be captain hindsight huh?

 

That in bold is the most outrageous statement I've read in a while on here. Beckham was the only WR in the draft last year who was an elite route runner in the entire route tree. The explosiveness I'll give you, that's debatable since it's close, but Beckham's hands, routes, focus, jump ball skills, tracking skills, body control and agility were all miles ahead of Watkins, and still are. The guy has unreal talent and isn't lacking in any aspect of the game (except height but he jumps high like Smitty and has amazing jump ball skills for his height).

 

Cruz was only healthy for 2 games that Beckham played in and was hurt in the 2nd so he missed most of that. All of Beckham's production was when he was the only threat. Cruz wasn't taking any pressure off of him at all. Of course he force fed him, because he was wide open all the time and he had a 70% catch rate despite Eli's mediocre accuracy (Randall Cobb's was 72% with Rodgers' pin-point accuracy), that doesn't take away from his game at all. Watkins was "force fed" as well, he had just 4 less targets than Beckham and 26 less receptions. And you have no clue what you're talking about, Beckham didn't "almost lead the league in interceptions when targeted." That's some bullsh*t you're trying to make up to support your argument.

 

As for Eli he is one of the most inconsistent passers in the league, pro bowls or not. Vince Young was a pro bowl QB too. His Super Bowl MVPs are irrelevant to the discussion as well. 

 

It's nice to not know much huh?

[GoobyPls]

Unless you got out in front of hindsight and said OBJ was a better prospect long before either was drafted, sure.

That's nice maybe you should become a scout yourself

[C47]

That's nice maybe you should become a scout yourself

 

Cool story, bro.