Funchess Learning From Proehl

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Two of the happier days for me as a panther fan were when Proehl signed on as a player, then a coach. He was almost always able to get open as a player, and can coach the guys up, too.

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shaq - panthers run nickle 65% of the time. No way luke or TD come off and bene is a great NB so he stays too. If this was TDs swan song it would help the reasoning picking Shaq, still overall I thought he was middle to late 2nd rounder. Wished the panthers would had picked a WR, like the very next pick is berriman or even Dorset. I just don't see where he fits on this team with these players and I don't put a high value on 4-3 OLB. Shaq playing means TD will play SLB, that's doing all the dirty work. ex. Taking on pulling OLmen so Luke/shaq/harper can make the play...

Panthers ran nickle out of necessity due to their lack of having a player that could stay on the field and guard a fast TE. Drafting shaq now prevents us from having to take a LB off for a smaller CB. We can now run a base 4-3 defense which I believe has always been the plan. Bene can come in when we are dealing with a quick slot receiver on 3rd down but having the speed and size of Shaq available on most plays gives our defense the flexibility it has always wanted but never had.

[Razeyfingers]

But not until he left here, so what does that say?

I guess that is something I just never understood. How can everyone yell from the mountain top that the WRs sucked the last few years, never get separation, drop easy passes, etc.  but at the same time they proclaim that Proehl is the best WR's coach in the league? 

What makes Proehl so much better than the other WR coaches in the league but none of his WRs have done anything until he got a 1st round pick with Benjamin? I honestly have no idea if Proehl is good or not but apparently many people know he is but something just doesn't add up there. 

I know, I know....it's Shula's fault. 

Well I wouldnt say none of receivers. Smitty credits Proehl for a lot of his growth back when Ricky was on the team. LaFell became a starter. . how many other 1st 2nd 3rds did we spend on receivers?

 

You do the counting :)

 

(and when you remember who that other draft pick was dont forget to roll your eyes, he wasnt gonna be successful anyways)

 

edit: and Johnny Im not saying Proehl is a good coach because others are. Im saying it because with my own eyeballs, Im watching him make a huge difference in every receivers habits and techniques. Its just obvious to me and many others I suppose.

Edited August 14, 2015 by Razeyfingers

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Panthers ran nickle out of necessity due to their lack of having a player that could stay on the field and guard a fast TE. Drafting shaq now prevents us from having to take a LB off for a smaller CB. We can now run a base 4-3 defense which I believe has always been the plan. Bene can come in when we are dealing with a quick slot receiver on 3rd down but having the speed and size of Shaq available on most plays gives our defense the flexibility it has always wanted but never had.

i disagree with your first few comments. Thomas Davis is a great player that can stay on the field taking on TEs. He's handled jimmy graham over the years. I'm sure you know its a passing league in this current meta. Plus you're suggesting remove shaq if the matchup is a speed slot? Nearly all teams have at least one and most teams start 3WRs now. 

We' ll see if shaq can be this unique special base defense weapon. I'll say his role will be one giant mountain to climb. 

[thefuzz]

But not until he left here, so what does that say?

I guess that is something I just never understood. How can everyone yell from the mountain top that the WRs sucked the last few years, never get separation, drop easy passes, etc.  but at the same time they proclaim that Proehl is the best WR's coach in the league? 

What makes Proehl so much better than the other WR coaches in the league but none of his WRs have done anything until he got a 1st round pick with Benjamin? I honestly have no idea if Proehl is good or not but apparently many people know he is but something just doesn't add up there. 

I know, I know....it's Shula's fault. 

It says that Tom Brady is one of the best QB's to ever put on a uniform.  We have all heard about how "tight" the offensive ship is run up there, and I do not see that at all with our current situation.

There are a handful of guys that can make the JAG's look great.....Brady is one of them.

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i disagree with your first few comments. Thomas Davis is a great player that can stay on the field taking on TEs. He's handled jimmy graham over the years. I'm sure you know its a passing league in this current meta. Plus you're suggesting remove shaq if the matchup is a speed slot? Nearly all teams have at least one and most teams start 3WRs now. 

We' ll see if shaq can be this unique special base defense weapon. I'll say his role will be one giant mountain to climb. 

But wouldn't you prefer someone that is 220 and can't be pushed aside as opposed to a cornerback? Shaq has a combo of size and speed that can't be duplicated by any nickel cornerback in the league. Further, I may be mistaken but don't we usually play zone? If so, each player is usually only responsible for a part of the field. Having a LB covering that area instead of a CB pays huge dividends when it comes to tackling and I'm sure any WR or TE is much more afraid of going over the middle on Shaq instead of a nickel. There is no doubt TD has been a TE killer but now we have one of those on both sides of the field. My hope would be the middle of the field is shut-down which allows us to have our safeties stay deep and protect the long go routes. You could be right in the end, but I have to say I understand Gettleman's thought and if it works out we have NO DOUBT the best front 7 in the league for at least 2 more years.

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How'd you feel about the Kuechly pick at first, honestly?

i was not a fan. Beaston(when he was one), TD, and james anderson...... why draft another 1st rounder? I did watch a few ACC games and there seemed to be at least two lukes on field. Still college game doesn't convert to nfl, most times. best draft pick in panther history thus far.