Voth talks "sustained success"

[thefuzz]

To add a bit to this discussion, I wanted to go through one of the teams that has had sustained success for a very long time in the salary cap NFL as we know it now.

 

Cap hits for 2016: The Patriots have 5 players that are paid in the top 10 for their positions, the Panthers have 7, and that could jump to 8 if we are able to sign KK.

 

[Ship]

2 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

The culture in Carolina is a deep divide between the players in the locker room 'family' and the distrusted individuals in the front office 'business'. The players did not take losing Josh Norman well among themselves with what they were told/promised and how the dealings with Norman went down.

Anyone who believes 2014 demonstrated 'sustained success' is not being objective. Someone from the NFC South had to go to the playoffs that season, and the Panthers received the consolation prize for being the best of the worst. Let us keep in mind how much the front office affected the 2014 season with their changes/experiments.

Oh.

[KB_fan]

this was a very good read from Bill Voth.   In spite of all the roster analysis I've done, it was still a bit startling to see in black & white just how much turnover there's been since 2013.  Now, it definitely caused some growing pains in 2014, but apart from the secondary, we'll be pretty stable and have a lot of continuity going from 2015 to 2016.  I think it should bode well as long as the young guys we're counting on (2nd & 3rd year players like Bene, Boston, Ealy, & Funchess) show the talent and improvement we've seen glimpses of, and importantly can be CONSISTENT.

Bill didn't specifically mention the DEPTH of the roster, but that's something Gettleman seems to have excelled at.  Yes, Corner is uncertain, and LT is still thin behind Oher, but what DG has done to increase the talent in the bottom of the roster is quite remarkable and definitely bodes well for sustainability, because injuries are the one uncontrollable factor that can truly derail a team no matter how much talent, how great the culture, and how good the GM & Coaches.  A deep roster helps offset that risk.

[The_Rainmaker]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Get off my lawn.

This guy here, have you tried playing madden yet or are you getting your HS team ready for the upcoming season. 

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, Servant of Cthululelei said:

Maybe we should call it something else....

I can see the need to carve out our own term.  The Pats do evoke love and hate---appreciation and disdain. But, simply, they have cultural possession of "way" in reference to an NFL franchise

I had to think about it for about 10 minutes before it struck me. It has been staring us all in the face, plus Gettleman may just be building a philosophy and football phenomenon that is just as important and notable. And with that I suggest to everyone that the Carolina Culture is very fitting for what Gettleman and Rivera are developing here. 

Perhaps years from now people will refer to the Carolina Culture in the same vein as the Patriot Way. If we can sustain success by marrying high standards, professionalism, smarts, high character, responsibility, and excellence  in all areas to effect some championships, then perhaps the Carolina Culture eclipses the Patriot Way because it won't be tainted by cheating.

The Carolina Culture makes sense to me for its alliteration and simplicity, and has the quality of a good GM, coaches and players behind it. In short, it's more than just rhetoric when you look at what's actually happening.

[KB_fan]

11 hours ago, top dawg said:

Perhaps years from now people will refer to the Carolina Culture in the same vein as the Patriot Way. If we can sustain success by marrying high standards, professionalism, smarts, high character, responsibility, and excellence  in all areas to effect some championships, then perhaps the Carolina Culture eclipses the Patriot Way because it won't be tainted by cheating.

The Carolina Culture makes sense to me for its alliteration and simplicity, and has the quality of a good GM, coaches and players behind it. In short, it's more than just rhetoric when you look at what's actually happening.

Great post.

Love it.  Yes I think / hope we're seeing it happen.  Even in the 3-4 years since I've been a Panther fan I've seen a difference in how the team talks, what the expectations are, and certainly in the fanbase and city of Charlotte.  Even small things like the KEEP POUNDING chant at the stadium are helping to create a strong culture around this team.  

Also, the continuity & stability in our ownership / GM / Coaching / player core are helping create a really strong identity of who we are and what we stand for.  There is very clearly a commitment to both character and excellence.

In terms of sustained success, I would love to see us set a record for consecutive NFC Championships (would need 3 to do it) and win a SB along the way.

According to Wikipedia:

No team has won more than two consecutive NFC championships. The Cowboys won two consecutive NFC championships three times (1970–1971, 1977–1978, 1992–1993). The Minnesota Vikings (1973–1974), Washington Redskins (1982–1983), San Francisco 49ers (1988–1989), Green Bay Packers (1996–1997), and Seattle Seahawks (2013-2014) have also won two consecutive NFC championships.

Let's join this club this season... and then own the record after 2017!