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We have traded for Andy Lee from the Browns


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5 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

I've just about got to disagree here. It looks like across the league, the FB has become the least important position on the field. 

And if you have a team with a dominant defense and an offense that sputters out regularly, that punter might be your best shot at winning the field position battle. And field position is the game.

You would say that Nortman or Andy Lee are more important than Mike Tolbert?

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37 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

You would say that Nortman or Andy Lee are more important than Mike Tolbert?

As much as I hate to say it, but yeah. Bear with me for just a minute, because I have always been a fan of the fullback position. Brad Hoover was one of the greats.

Imagine that Tolbert gets knocked out in the first quarter of the Superb owl this year. It's a tough defensive team we are up against. He is going to be missed, but we can just move to the jumbo package plays or use Stewie and CAP more in running/blocking/receiving roles. It's going to limit us a bit, but we can make do.. we still have a running game.

Okay, same scenario, same all or nothing game for the big win. Opposing team has a strong defense and the punter gets knocked out in the first quarter. Who do you put in to punt when a drive stalls? How do you flip the field after a 3 and out by our squad? Ever seen a kicker take over for a punter? 

The punter might not get much respect, but not having one can kill a team. You've got to have at least a fair to good one to win the battle of field position. Full backs, well, some teams don't even bother anymore.

 

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11 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

As much as I hate to say it, but yeah. Bear with me for just a minute, because I have always been a fan of the fullback position. Brad Hoover was one of the greats.

Imagine that Tolbert gets knocked out in the first quarter of the Superb owl this year. It's a tough defensive team we are up against. He is going to be missed, but we can just move to the jumbo package plays or use Stewie and CAP more in running/blocking/receiving roles. It's going to limit us a bit, but we can make do.. we still have a running game.

Okay, same scenario, same all or nothing game for the big win. Opposing team has a strong defense and the punter gets knocked out in the first quarter. Who do you put in to punt when a drive stalls? How do you flip the field after a 3 and out by our squad? Ever seen a kicker take over for a punter? 

The punter might not get much respect, but not having one can kill a team. You've got to have at least a fair to good one to win the battle of field position. Full backs, well, some teams don't even bother anymore.

 

Haha I never said having NO punter was better than having no fullback. Of course you have to have a punter! But I would say it's impossible to argue that Brad Nortman was more key to our Super Bowl run than Mike Tolbert was.

 

Put another way, if Brad Nortman goes down Week 1 last year with a torn ACL, it sucks, but you move on pretty quickly. If Mike Tolbert goes down, the Huddle briefly becomes suicidal.

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Pat McManamon ESPN Staff Writer 

Hue Jackson said Andy Lee's poor effort on punt return coverage Friday night had "nothing to do" with Lee's trade to Carolina on Monday. The Panthers gave the Browns a fourth-round pick in 2018 for Lee. Jackson said it is "probably unheard of" to get a pick that high for a punter.

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1 hour ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Haha I never said having NO punter was better than having no fullback. Of course you have to have a punter! But I would say it's impossible to argue that Brad Nortman was more key to our Super Bowl run than Mike Tolbert was.

 

Put another way, if Brad Nortman goes down Week 1 last year with a torn ACL, it sucks, but you move on pretty quickly. If Mike Tolbert goes down, the Huddle briefly becomes suicidal.

Just saying that a reliable punter is more vital to a team's success in the modern NFL than a reliable FB is. 

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Would the last limpdick-dumbfuk that believes/quotes Dave when he says he "doesn't believe in windows" shut out the lights when they leave?

This is about NOW.  This is about the last nuance and Dave knows it.  You fools think he casts his pearls before swine?

When Lee kicks his ass off all year, then does the same in the PO and SB and everyone is waiting in line to swing from Dave's sticks and bones I will bump this thread.

Dave knows what he is doing.  This was a brilliant move.

You negative Nancies need to go over to the Vikings message boards.  At least they have something legit to cry over.

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