Really Ron? Wants to keep same staff

[csx]

I think coaches can fire their guys since I am pretty certain there are no multi-year contracts below the head coach. I know it used to be that way.

[KillerKat]

I hate to say it but I also think Proehl needs to go or needs to just be an assistant. None of our WRs have developed and we took Garrett, who had the most yards in the NCAA, and couldn't even do anything with him.

[iamhubby1]

41 minutes ago, csx said:

I think coaches can fire their guys since I am pretty certain there are no multi-year contracts below the head coach. I know it used to be that way.

 

Dang, hadn't thought about Assistants contracts. I would think, anyone with a multi year contract has to be dealt with. Anyone on a one year deal could be let go. But is there severance pay? Do you pay only for time served? Which would make the most sense, as most Coaches probably don't have guaranteed contracts.

 

But I would think, in most cases, that a Coach could fire an Assistant without consulting the GM. It is just those players with those funky contracts that a Coach would have to get with the GM about. Can you cut him? How do you discipline him? More goes into cutting a player that just calling him into your office.

[csx]

3 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

Dang, hadn't thought about Assistants contracts. I would think, anyone with a multi year contract has to be dealt with. Anyone on a one year deal could be let go. But is there severance pay? Do you pay only for time served? Which would make the most sense, as most Coaches probably don't have guaranteed contracts.

 

But I would think, in most cases, that a Coach could fire an Assistant without consulting the GM. It is just those players with those funky contracts that a Coach would have to get with the GM about. Can you cut him? How do you discipline him? More goes into cutting a player that just calling him into your office.

Sorry I didn't realize you were talking about players. I doubt a coach can cut a player by himself but he can sit him all he wants. Every team would have a different approach I'm sure but you would want the GM and coach to work together and from a little different angles to make decisions. 

[iamhubby1]

1 minute ago, csx said:

Sorry I didn't realize you were talking about players. I doubt a coach can cut a player by himself but he can sit him all he wants. Every team would have a different approach I'm sure but you would want the GM and coach to work together and from a little different angles to make decisions. 

 

What it comes down to is, @Snake is of the belief that JR is a hands on Owner, and that Gman is basically a figurehead. That because Gman was forced to deal with Ron, and not hire his own Coach. Gman, and Ron, are on the same footing.

 

From everything I have hear, Gman, and Ron are two peas in a pod. That does not explain what happened this year. But to me, it gives me hope for the future. Because there is a culture shift happening at this time. And if it works. Things are going to be exciting.

[csx]

1 minute ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

What it comes down to is, @Snake is of the belief that JR is a hands on Owner, and that Gman is basically a figurehead. That because Gman was forced to deal with Ron, and not hire his own Coach. Gman, and Ron, are on the same footing.

 

From everything I have hear, Gman, and Ron are two peas in a pod. That does not explain what happened this year. But to me, it gives me hope for the future. Because there is a culture shift happening at this time. And if it works. Things are going to be exciting.

Snake is wrong. It's that simple. 

[iamhubby1]

8 minutes ago, csx said:

Snake is wrong. It's that simple. 

 

Lol. I am pretty sure @Snake does not feel the same way.

[csx]

Just because he didn't doesn't mean that he wanted to but couldn't.  That is absurd. He cut JR'S best player friend. I'm mean seriously.

Again, no Gm in the league fires a coach without the owner giving permission.

[iamhubby1]

4 minutes ago, csx said:

Just because he didn't doesn't mean that he wanted to but couldn't.  That is absurd. He cut JR'S best player friend. I'm mean seriously.

Again, no Gm in the league fires a coach without the owner giving permission.

 

It is probably the one decision a GM makes, that he does need to seek out the Owner for. Other than that, most owners just stay out of the way. Most owners hire people to do a job, and then actually allow those people to do their jobs. Funny how things work.

[csx]

He's cut Smith, Johnson, and retracted a tag from Norman.  All are close with Richardson. 

[Jens]

Actually, I think this staff is pretty good. We were a Gano missed field goal to get our revenge on Denver to start up the season. If that would have gone in, I think we would have been in the playoffs. The thing that disturbes me is that Falcons always seems to have the edge when we play them. Getting back to topic, lets keep the staff, we were 15-1 last season and we have a great team.

[Ace_Aladdin]

17 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

 

First. The Logo at mid-field because JR is showing his loyalty to the NFL. That has nothing to do with the hierarchy within the Organization.

 

Second. I am not sure why you think that a GM doesn't have any power? Next to the Owner, the GM is top dog where football operations are concerned. Gman controls the players, coaches, scouts, any and all personnel involved with the football side of the Franchise.

 

If Gman wanted, he could fire Rivera today, and name Proehl as the HC. Ron has control over his staff, and that's pretty much it. If Ron wants to cut a player, because of contract constrictions, he has to get GMans approval.

 

Lastly. When he got the job, Gman was told Ron was his Coach. That is true. But it is only so, because Ron was only in the second year of his contract. You usually don't fire a Coach after only two years, even if you, as we did, bring in a new GM. That scenario does not take away the power that Gman has over Ron.

 

You, for some reason, have taken the circumstances of Gmans' hiring, and turned it into Gman having no power. That just isn't the case.

 

 

Wrong,  Gman is in charge of the Cap and roster mangment its the president of organization Danny Morrison that has the power to change the Coach & GM  after talking to JR .

@Snake @iamhubby1 

[Mr. Scot]

30 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

Wrong,  Gman is in charge of the Cap and roster mangment its the president of organization Danny Morrison that has the power to change the Coach & GM  after talking to JR .

@Snake @iamhubby1 

Danny Morrison actually has very little to do with football operations.  He's an administrator and runs things like team outreach and stadium operations.

Try reading his bio before you say something stupid (again).

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In his capacity as president, Morrison works with team leadership on the business operations and Bank of America Stadium business interests in addition to representing the organization in many league matters. Since Morrison assumed those duties in September 2009, the Panthers have been innovative and aggressive in improving the fan experience while reaching new levels in corporate support and sponsorships.

Danny Morrison Bio: Panthers.com

You really don't know jack s--t about anything outside of Madden, do you?

[Ace_Aladdin]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Danny Morrison actually has very little to do with football operations.  He's an administrator and runs things like team outreach and stadium operations.

Try reading his bio before you say something stupid (again).

Danny Morrison Bio: Panthers.com

You really don't know jack s--t about anything outside of Madden, do you?

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after talking to JR .

 

DG has no power over the coach its only JR