Will Brinson at CBSSports.com school Pete Prissyco

[tiger7_88]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2017-nfl-draft-winners-and-losers-browns-make-smart-moves-bears-fall-short/

"Winner: Carolina Panthers

A disappointing 2016 season exposed some holes with the Panthers and set them up for a top-10 pick in this draft. The good news about a top-10 pick is you can get a top-10 player, and the Panthers did just that by snagging Christian McCaffrey at No. 8 overall.

I could not care less what grade Pete Prisco gave them for it -- it's a great pick. McCaffrey is a four-down, game-changing running back with "suction cups" (Dave Gettleman's words) for hands. Couple him with Curtis Samuel, their pick at No. 40 overall, and they just help Cam Newton to drastically improve his completion percentage and efficiency through short-yardage throws that result in explosive plays. They have Kelvin Benjamin/Devin Funchess on the outside and McCaffrey/Samuel on the inside, not to mention Greg Olsen. This offense should be fun. 

Bonus points to Gettleman for grabbing Taylor Moton with his other second round pick (No. 64) -- Carolina had defensive players in the draft they could have pursued at this point, but they need to protect Cam. This pick should do so immediately, particularly since he should be able to provide depth at guard or simply step in and start at right tackle. 

Defensively, the Panthers added a potential high-end edge rusher to an elderly group of defensive ends, bringing in Daeshon Hall, who can hop into the rotation and could end up being a star for them. Corn Elder, the Miami corner they picked up in the fifth round, could play nickel out of the gate and defensive end Alex Armah is actually going to be a 240-pound fullback after playing on the defensive line and at tight end during college. Bonus: they drafted a kicker for the first time in franchise history, Harrison Butker out of Georgia Tech. "

[rmoneyg35]

If you have paid attention to Ron Rivera from the start you would notice he has always talked about having a Scat back like Sproles. Well I know some people believed Brandon Wegher was that guy but it seems like he was just a poor mans version of the guy we drafted this time.

[heel31ok]

26 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2017-nfl-draft-winners-and-losers-browns-make-smart-moves-bears-fall-short/

"Winner: Carolina Panthers

A disappointing 2016 season exposed some holes with the Panthers and set them up for a top-10 pick in this draft. The good news about a top-10 pick is you can get a top-10 player, and the Panthers did just that by snagging Christian McCaffrey at No. 8 overall.

I could not care less what grade Pete Prisco gave them for it -- it's a great pick. McCaffrey is a four-down, game-changing running back with "suction cups" (Dave Gettleman's words) for hands. Couple him with Curtis Samuel, their pick at No. 40 overall, and they just help Cam Newton to drastically improve his completion percentage and efficiency through short-yardage throws that result in explosive plays. They have Kelvin Benjamin/Devin Funchess on the outside and McCaffrey/Samuel on the inside, not to mention Greg Olsen. This offense should be fun. 

Bonus points to Gettleman for grabbing Taylor Moton with his other second round pick (No. 64) -- Carolina had defensive players in the draft they could have pursued at this point, but they need to protect Cam. This pick should do so immediately, particularly since he should be able to provide depth at guard or simply step in and start at right tackle. 

Defensively, the Panthers added a potential high-end edge rusher to an elderly group of defensive ends, bringing in Daeshon Hall, who can hop into the rotation and could end up being a star for them. Corn Elder, the Miami corner they picked up in the fifth round, could play nickel out of the gate and defensive end Alex Armah is actually going to be a 240-pound fullback after playing on the defensive line and at tight end during college. Bonus: they drafted a kicker for the first time in franchise history, Harrison Butker out of Georgia Tech. "

are we projecting Moton to start right away?

[heel31ok]

18 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

If you have paid attention to Ron Rivera from the start you would notice he has always talked about having a Scat back like Sproles. Well I know some people believed Brandon Wegher was that guy but it seems like he was just a poor mans version of the guy we drafted this time.

Wegher was a good player poor man or not...

[rmoneyg35]

1 minute ago, heel31ok said:

Wegher was a good player poor man or not...

I always thought he would end up being a steal. Did well in preseason but it seemed like his 2nd year they gave up on him or he just didn't do as well. I know plenty of people here had high hopes for him as well.

[heel31ok]

Just now, rmoneyg35 said:

I always thought he would end up being a steal. Did well in preseason but it seemed like his 2nd year they gave up on him or he just didn't do as well. I know plenty of people here had high hopes for him as well.

that's pretty much how it went...seemed like we did give up on him...

[KB_fan]

5 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

are we projecting Moton to start right away?

who knows?  so much depends on Oher's status.  If Oher is able to play, I'd doubt Moton will start,  But if its just him and Daryl Williams, Moton could win the spot I think,

[heel31ok]

Just now, KB_fan said:

who knows?  so much depends on Oher's status.  If Oher is able to play, I'd doubt Moton will start,  But if its just him and Daryl Williams, Moton could win the spot I think,

analysis says he moves inside... thatw's why i ask

[zacka77ack]

Rivera is loyal to a fault. Fozzy Whitaker and CAP are JAGS.. Neither should have made the roster over Wegher. Hopefully the dump the running back stable, keeping only Stewart this year.

[t96]

5 minutes ago, zacka77ack said:

Rivera is loyal to a fault. Fozzy Whitaker and CAP are JAGS.. Neither should have made the roster over Wegher. Hopefully the dump the running back stable, keeping only Stewart this year.

Uhh, this post doesn't make much sense. Wegher isn't even a JAG. He hasn't done anything in this league, and never will at this point. CAP was a disappointment too, but ran well in some of the limited time he played. Just couldn't pass protect, or catch the ball well and isn't a special runner. So yeah he's a JAG and I'd guess is certainly on the way out now. But Fozzy is a very solid 3rd string shifty back. Fozzy definitely a couple steps above of Wegher. CAP was close, could make an argument for either, but neither is good. Rivera may be overly loyal at times, but I don't think talking about these RBs is a good example. Wegher is a cool guy and a good story, but just doesn't have NFL talent.

[bobsfoodbasics]

14 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

analysis says he moves inside... thatw's why i ask

he's definitely a RT first and G second.

i think he starts after oher "retires" and williams backs him up.

[tiger7_88]

25 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

are we projecting Moton to start right away?

Don't think so.

But its not too much of a stretch, considering Oher's health and past performance record at RT and William's iffy performances on the right so far, to think that its inside of the realm of possibility.

[tiger7_88]

21 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

that's pretty much how it went...seemed like we did give up on him...

As did the rest of the league, seemingly.

[tiger7_88]

17 minutes ago, zacka77ack said:

Rivera is loyal to a fault. Fozzy Whitaker and CAP are JAGS.. Neither should have made the roster over Wegher.

The Mythical Legend of Brandon Wegher will never die.