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Panthers with 12 former 1st round picks in 2 deep, EASILY tops in the league


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11 minutes ago, Nails said:

I was only counting 1st round picks (12).  And 1st AND high 2nd round picks (top 45 overall) (16?).  

Further analysis can be done and is appreciated-and will NO DOUBT show our draft value is FAR superior to any other team, with no close second.

One could argue that just means we sucked more often than other teams in order to draft in the top 45...

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5 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

One could argue that just means we sucked more often than other teams in order to draft in the top 45...

Nope.  The attrition in places like Cleveland, Jacksonville, and Oakland through the years prove hanging onto talent isn't always a sure thing.

Also, we traded up for Funchess, got Matt Kalil because we saved money for years and have a family connection, etc.

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16 minutes ago, Nails said:

Nope.  The attrition in places like Cleveland, Jacksonville, and Oakland through the years prove hanging onto talent isn't always a sure thing.

Also, we traded up for Funchess, got Matt Kalil because we saved money for years and have a family connection, etc.

This is true. When we did suck, we made the most out of the opportunity the draft provided us the next year (In round one mostly)

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3 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

This is true. When we did suck, we made the most out of the opportunity the draft provided us the next year (In round one mostly)

Even 2013, an awful draft year, we got our man (Star) and top target in the teens.

This is the year the fury is unleashed.  Bend over NFL.  Like it or not, it's coming.

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9 hours ago, top dawg said:

It's after those first couple of rounds that helps separate the men from the boys or the wheat from the chaff in terms of franchises that sustain excellence and those that perennially flounder around. Moreover, it's also the front offices that can acquire first and second round talent, or just talent, period, that fits who keep themselves in contention. So although drafting and retaining "2 deep" talent helps, it's but a part of determining the overall quality of a franchise.

This is very true, and unfortunately for us, Hurney is a late round disaster.

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The Lions been drafting high for years, how's that workin out?

 

the year we drafted Funchess, we started with 7 picks, traded twice & got the 5 Gettleman wanted, he said after that there weren't 7 spots open, he got his 5..... it's not like we traded next years 1st for a guy that rarely sees the field... twice....

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Just because I'm bored as hell: 

Defense ....

Pep- 1st rounder

Star- 1st rounder

KK- 2nd rounder (projected late 1s -2nd)

CJ: 3rd Rounder (projected 2nd-3rd)

Luke: 1st rounder

TD: 1st rounder

Shaq: 1st rounder

Bradberry: 2nd rounder (#1 rated rookie corner)

Worley: 3rd rounder 

Kurt Coleman: 7th round (Leads the NFC in interceptions since 2015)

Mike Adams: UDFA (2x Pro Bowler)

Offense: 

Cam: 1st rounder 

Stew: 1st rounder

Cmc: 1st rounder

Matt Kalil: 1st rounder 

Norwell: UDFA (#12 best ranked guard in the NFL)

Turner: 3rd rounder (2x pro bowler)

Ryan Kalil: 2nd round (5 time pro bowler, 3x All Pro)

Olsen: 1st rounder

Kb: 1st rounder

Samuel: 2nd rounder 

Not taking age into account, on paper we look pretty good. That being said, if everyone plays up to par with level drafted/past achievements we would be close to legendary. 

That's easy to speak though

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7 minutes ago, ColumbusCounty said:

Just because I'm bored as hell: 

Defense ....

Pep- 1st rounder

Star- 1st rounder

KK- 2nd rounder (projected late 1s -2nd)

CJ: 3rd Rounder (projected 2nd-3rd)

Luke: 1st rounder

TD: 1st rounder

Shaq: 1st rounder

Bradberry: 2nd rounder (#1 rated rookie corner)

Worley: 3rd rounder 

Kurt Coleman: 7th round (Leads the NFC in interceptions since 2015)

Mike Adams: UDFA (2x Pro Bowler)

Offense: 

Cam: 1st rounder 

Stew: 1st rounder

Cmc: 1st rounder

Matt Kalil: 1st rounder 

Norwell: UDFA (#12 best ranked guard in the NFL)

Turner: 3rd rounder (2x pro bowler)

Ryan Kalil: 2nd round (5 time pro bowler, 3x All Pro)

Olsen: 1st rounder

Kb: 1st rounder

Samuel: 2nd rounder 

Not taking age into account, on paper we look pretty good. That being said, if everyone plays up to par with level drafted/past achievements we would be close to legendary. 

That's easy to speak though

Remember too, Cam is not just a "1st rounder"-the amount of draft capital his worth would demand via trade is simply off the charts and likely more than any player in football right now.

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