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What If... Marty Just Did Something That Will Make You Love Him?

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5 minutes ago, simmonsab said:

Okay, here. From Spotrac.com:

2011: Our Max Salary was $123,175,000. Total Cap: $122,157,561, with our estimated offseason cap at $1,017,439. 

2012: Max: $120,600,000. Total: $127,403,460, with estimated offseason cap at $-6,803,460. DEAD CAP: $6,123,007

2013: Max: $127,336,381. Total: $109,976,646, with $17,359,735 and DEAD: $18,607,423 (WE HAD NOTHING TO SPEND).

2014: Max: $138,...... . Total: $133,........ , with a little above 5 million, and DEAD: $27,........

The list goes on and on. We were in cap hell. 

 it's not adding up ...2013 shows 17m in space... with dead money accounted for... what else knocked it down?

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14 minutes ago, simmonsab said:

Definitely -- I wasn't disagreeing with you at all! I think we're making smaller points to a bigger agreement -- Gettleman is pathetic. The worst thing we did was bring back Hurney to run the team again. 

Gettleman deserved to be gone. Not signing Norman (although I have a take on that I'll explain after this), and then being on the record for not wanting to resign TD and Greg after this season. In my eyes, loyalty is key, especially with those 2. I don't think we can name a more consistent duo in the past 5 years than those 2 have been for us. Gettleman's drafts were the Matt Kalil argument, "average, at best." We had a few key pickups, but when you have the opportunity to take guys (JARVIS LANDRY AND THE HONEY BADGER), you have to do it. I know, in Charlotte, our style isn't these troubled players, but cmon...you need football players. I prefer Gettleman over Hurney, but if I had to pick either, I think I'd just go ahead and retire. 

 

Josh Norman take: While agreed that we should have resigned Norman, I'm not against pulling the Franchise Tag. We needed Norman, but does one year prove anything? Yes, he was rated the top corner during our Super Bowl run, but one year proves nothing in my eyes. We say this now because of his play in Washington. Although we needed Norman, he said this after we revoked the FT: "I wanted to be a Panther forever." Okay, if you wanted to do that, we were going to pay you. Why not just sign the FT to begin with and discuss long term, instead of being greedy and complaining about more money, for the time being. We would have paid him for sure, but it was all timing. 

But overall, I think we agree. 

I agree also but these are college kids who are probably going to make a mistake or two as long as it is nothing too hurtful to someone everyone deserves a second chance unless your a Johnny Manziel type who is a straight up drug addict. But passing on Derrick Henry or a offensive tackle in the 2016 draft was a real head scratcher to me and the final straw for Gettleman. Obviously Cam needed a new "hit em in the mouth" running back to eventually replace Steward or anyone who watched Super Bowl 50 saw that the tackle position is the reason the Broncos won that game.

Now as far as your Norman take one year proves EVERYTHING. I'm not saying Norman would have taken the Panthers to Super Bowl 51 or anything but having Norman play under the tag for one more year would have been one less hole in the secondary. Being Greedy is part of the game unfortunately but you as a GM stick to your guns and just make him play under the tag which is what he would have done eventually. Also Norman under the tag would have completely changed the draft, instead of taking healthy scratch Butler and wasting it on DBs you go take more risk (which Gettleman never did)

 

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CAP TYPE BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS INCENTIVES CAP TOTAL
2013 NFL Salary Cap $123,600,000
2012 Rollover Cap $3,654,825
Adjustment $81,556
Adjusted Salary Cap $127,336,381
All Contracts $44,028,487 $30,987,655 $3,062,500 $2,091,666 $1,765,000 $4,895,000 $450,000 $83,961,776
Injured Reserve Money $4,887,000 $1,248,447 $100,000 $1,000,000 $100,000 - - $7,335,447
Dead Money $13,611,789 $2,995,634 - $2,000,000 - - - $18,607,423
Practice Squad $72,000 - - - - - - $72,000
Total $62,599,276 $35,231,736 $3,162,500 $5,091,666 $1,865,000 $4,895,000 $450,000 $109,976,646
Cap Space $17,359,735
 
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1 minute ago, The Righteous Troll said:

Because if you look at the team as a whole from the roster to the staff you'll find Hurney guys and coaches were a big reason for the 15-1 season. Olsen(who was a trade), Luke (Hurney pick) and Cam of course. 

Please account for the other 47 people on the team. 

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