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Peppers through week 5 2008 and 2009


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Want to compare that with his weekly pay?

I don't care about his stats, I care about his impact on the game week to week. I'm sick of him showing up one week and disappearing the next. When he influences every game enough to justify an entire offseason of handcuffing a team, then I'll say he's doing pretty good.

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No. He in no way justifies his pay grade.

But he isn't the worse peice of poo on the field either. Despite what some would have you believe around these parts.

He's doing what is average for him to do, and apparently the FO thought that average was good enough for a million a game. I don't agree with that, but.....well, you know the saying.

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Want to compare that with his weekly pay?

I don't care about his stats, I care about his impact on the game week to week. I'm sick of him showing up one week and disappearing the next. When he influences every game enough to justify an entire offseason of handcuffing a team, then I'll say he's doing pretty good.

im not justifying what happened during the offseason, because we could have done better. we should/could have a healthy rotation of d-lineman, and such, by adding during free agency, but couldnt afford because he held on to peppers, however, many people, including myself, have really be dogging the guy. and we didn't do it last season, at least i didn't. his numbers are identical right now, and really a bit better since he has 1 less game, and there is still time to build

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Want to compare that with his weekly pay?

I don't care about his stats, I care about his impact on the game week to week. I'm sick of him showing up one week and disappearing the next. When he influences every game enough to justify an entire offseason of handcuffing a team, then I'll say he's doing pretty good.

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im not justifying what happened during the offseason, because we could have done better. we should/could have a healthy rotation of d-lineman, and such, by adding during free agency, but couldnt afford because he held on to peppers, however, many people, including myself, have really be dogging the guy. and we didn't do it last season, at least i didn't. his numbers are identical right now, and really a bit better since he has 1 less game, and there is still time to build

I don't disagree. I've been defending Pep's play today in other threads. The bottom line is that HE prevented offseason moves and now HE needs to prove he was worth it. I ultimately place the blame on Hurney not willing to let go of a good player even though it could improve the whole team. I've been critical of Peppers, and I'll also give him credit when credit is due, but the bottom line is that he put the heat on himself and now he has to deliver. He's no longer an important aspect of the defense, he's the difference between a good defense and a mediocre one. I don't want to see the same thing from last year, because last year this team had to put up 30 points to win a game. I want a player that will take over a game, because his salary has taken over the team.

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im going to write a big long thing tomorrow about the magical statistic "sack" and why people like the OP are drooling morons

I look forward to your big long thing about something specific that makes you look like you know about the overall....thing. God knows you don't spit out enough of that.

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It was Hurney's fault through and through, Peppers just took advantage of the situation. Hurney said over and over that he 'doesn't let good players go' and throughout the entire time they were trying to sign Peppers(going back a couple years) they probably could have gotten a great deal for him. Look at what Jerry Jones gave up for Williams. Hurney stubbornly stuck to his guns and allowed Peppers to handcuff him.

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