DE Prospects 2018 Draft

[Shocker]

Davenport looks like he'll be a beast, but doubt he makes 24.  

Key just screams bust to me, I'd pass on him.

[stirs]

I think Hubbard is the only 43 guy you have listed

[jumpman910]

1 hour ago, saints4lifeagain said:

I think he'll be solid. I just don't know that you draft those guys in the first round.

Yeah absolutely, Hubbard in the 2nd is great but 1st rounders need to have a higher ceiling 

[WOW!!]

I like Hubbard or a safety.. fug drafting another WR in the 1st or 2nd round.. Get a FA that can go day 1.. Draft a top round DE or safety while you have Pep and Addison in the fold...

[saints4lifeagain]

2 hours ago, Shocker said:

Davenport looks like he'll be a beast, but doubt he makes 24.  

Key just screams bust to me, I'd pass on him.

I guess he could be, but he's got some pretty dominant tape. 2016 he was a monster. Last year he dominated a 4 or 5 game stretch once he got on the field and in shape. He was a 1 man wrecking crew vs. Bama.

 

2 hours ago, stirs said:

I think Hubbard is the only 43 guy you have listed

Key and Davenport? Landry and OK have the potential to be, depending on weight.

[Pi = 3.1SHutYoMouth!]

8 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Davenport is probably the second most solid prospect at DE in the draft, after Chubb, which is why I expect him to climb. I wouldn't be surprised to see him climb into the top 10. 

There is literally zero comparison to Mingo. Mingo was tall and slim and nothing but fast. Mingo was 6'4 and 240. Key is gonna be 6'6 and 270. Key is twice the pass rusher Mingo ever was. There was no lack of production. There are off field concerns, which he seems to have handled. Key has Garrett potential, which puts his ceiling higher than any other rusher in the draft. I have no idea where the Cam Jordan comparison came from, especially as if it would be a bad thing. Cam is probably the best pure DE in football.

My mistake. I didn't mean Cam, I meant Dion Jordan who was another athletic lanky DE who busted for Dolphins. 4-3 DE prospects this year is just not very good. I can see as grabbing some depth for later rounds DE like a Josh Sweat, Ejiofor, Dorance Armstrong etc. Key is too much high risk / high reward for a 1st round pick. DE is a definite need for the future of this franchise, but I don't think it's the most pressing need in 2018. The key positions of need are WR, CB, S, and a 2nd RB if we let go of Stewart. 

I like the depth of all those positions more particularly if the skill players in this draft get pushed if we have 5-6 QBs taken before we pick. I'm allf or BPA, but I just don't see it for this group. 2019 D-line class though is going to be something. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

If I remember correctly Everette Brown was undersized and we see what that cost us.  We lost our 2010 1st round pick because of that move.  I want to stay away from anyone undersized because most likely they will not make it.

[heel31ok]

11 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

I created this thread on another board, but figured since the Panthers may be in the market for a DE in the draft, I'd add here as well. This is one of the deeper positions in the draft, in my opinion, even if less spectacular than last years position group. I really like a few of these prospects. I'm going to leave Chubb off, because he's going to be gone. 

First, is Arden Key. Key would probably be the top prospect on any board if not for his off field concerns. The still unspecified leave of absence really hurts. I've seen some mocks without him even in the first round. That's huge for what is probably the most talented player in the draft. Key has Myles Garrett type athleticism. I expect him to blow the combine up and shoot up boards into the top 10, but he's gonna have to knock the interviews out of the park. Highlight tape, from 2016, as he missed a lot of time this year: 

 

Second, is Marcus Davenport. If Davenport played at a bigger school, he'd be a lock for top 10. His height and frame remind you of Calais Campbell. He looked like a man amongst boys in CUSA, which he should have. Depending on how he tests, he may be long gone. Highlight tape: 

 

 

Third, is Harold Landry. More of a strictly speed rusher type player. May even play some off ball linebacker in the NFL. Long and fast. Those are things NFL scouts love. Struggles against the run a bit, and doesn't have a huge array of pass rush moves, but the athleticism is there. Should be there in the 20s. Highlights: 

 

Next is Ogbonnia Okoronkwo. Somebody who is going to have to put on some weight to get first round consideration. He's sneaking into some drafts, but if he shows up to the combine any lighter than 250, I think it's tough. He's got a lot of tape where he gets washed out by size. Scouts don't want to see that, because size is everywhere in the NFL. However, he's explosive, fast, and can bend. Probably the best bend of all the guys I've watched. Interested to see him test. Highlights: 

 

Last, is Sam Hubbard. Hubbard is a Cam Jordan clone, just slightly less athletic. Didn't have great production at a school that produces dlinemen like no other. Not as explosive as some of the other guys as a pass rusher, but very complete as a DE. Highlights: 

Thoughts? I'd like to keep this thread purely draft talk, if possible. 

If Davenport falls we have to take him...