David Newton talks about Tina Becker and the GM search

[panthers55]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

He didn't nor does want to be viewed as a quitter, believe he even made that statement when he was asked if he was fired or resigned. Said he didn't resign as he's not a quitter. 

Yeah I read that too. So lets me get this straight I would rather be thought of as incompetent as long as I am no quitter.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

He didn't nor does want to be viewed as a quitter, believe he even made that statement when he was asked if he was fired or resigned. Said he didn't resign as he's not a quitter. 

Which is why you give the public one story even if it's another that's true.

And to be clear, Hurney didn't resign.  He agreed to be fired. So if he says "no I didn't resign" he's technically telling the truth.

[panthers55]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Why? To protect Rivera, whom he hired, from being let go.

For whatever ineptitude Marty Hurney may have as a general manager, I don't  see too many people question that he's a genuinely good guy.

Add in that Marty wasn't exactly hurting for money at this point.

Given that Rivera was on the hot seat anyway and wasnt given an extension until after Gettleman arrived and after the 2013 season how exactly did Marty's firing preserve Rivera especially since supposedly Richardson was planning on firing him originally according to this conspiracy theory.

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Which is why you give the public one story even if it's another that's true.

And to be clear, Hurney didn't resign.  He agreed to be fired. So if he says "no I didn't resign" he's technically telling the truth.

And to be clear he was fired. The only people saying he asked to be fired to save Ron are unnamed insiders who have never come forward.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, panthers55 said:

Given that Rivera was on the hot seat anyway and wasnt given an extension until after Gettleman arrived and after the 2013 season how exactly did Marty's firing preserve Rivera especially since supposedly Richardson was planning on firing him originally according to this conspiracy theory.

Because Richardson did want to fire him. Hurney talked him out of it.

And let's be clear: this is not some conspiracy theory that was created by fans. It's been reported by two people, one of whom actually works inside the organization.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

And to be clear he was fired. The only people saying he asked to be fired to save Ron are unnamed insiders who have never come forward.

They're not unnamed. Bill Voth was one. David Newton is the other (in the article that's the subject of this thread).

Say what you want about Newton's football knowledge, but he does have inside access to the Panthers organization.

[unicar15]

Raye is the top candidate imo. Those charger teams he was developing were stacked. We’ve never had talent like the SD teams of the early 2000s. Give him the job...kick hurney to the curb.

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

They're not unnamed. Bill Voth was one. David Newton is the other (in the article that's the subject of this thread).

Voth at the time wasn't an insider nor was Newton. They were both reporters.

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because Richardson did want to fire him. Hurney talked him out of it.

And let's be clear: this is not some conspiracy theory that was created by fans. It's been reported by two people, one of whom actually works inside the organization.

So what kept Richardson from firing Rivera after Hurney left. Or Gettleman firing him?

[dldove77]

If Tina Becker matured in an organization run by Jerry Richardson, respected him, and was promoted by him to run the team in his absence, it makes sense to me that she would also not speak to the media very often. 

[carpanfan96]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Voth at the time wasn't an insider nor was Newton. They were both reporters.

Correct but Voth certainly had several prominent sources inside the team as he was the one who broke the Smith being cut story. 

Newton I'm sure had inside sources as well at the time. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, unicar15 said:

Raye is the top candidate imo. Those charger teams he was developing were stacked. We’ve never had talent like the SD teams of the early 2000s. Give him the job...kick hurney to the curb.

If he does get the job, what Hurney is more likely to be "kicked" to is a team president position or some such. Which I'm fine with, as long as Raye has full control of the football operations.

I think it's also possible that Hurney could be named the GM and one of the other candidates could be named assistant GM. Though for Raye, that'd be a lateral move. 

The only real way I could see any one of them accepting an assistant role would be with the understanding that Hurney would hand them the job a few years down the road.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Voth at the time wasn't an insider nor was Newton. They were both reporters.

Voth only wrote this recently. I read it. So did others, but attempts to find it since then have come up short.

Newton confirmed it just today.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

So what kept Richardson from firing Rivera after Hurney left. Or Gettleman firing him?

Richardson? Partly his word to Hurney, but more importantly the fact that we started winning.

Gettleman? He liked Rivera. Gettleman firmly believed they could win a Super Bowl together, and said so to Ron.