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Please ignore if you are only focused on draft.

But can we talk about how in the fug Marvin Lewis has been coach for the Bengals for 16 years?

He has as many playoff wins as both you and me.  What an ABSOLUTE joke.  Marvin Lewis and the Bengals owner honestly should be tossed in jail by Cincinnati residents for that.
 

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4 minutes ago, SOJA said:

this is a peak offseason post amidst the most interesting offseason event 

again... ignore if you are solely focused on "the most interesting offseason event".  It's not a crazy concept to have multiple conversations at once.  You might not be able to handle it though bud

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1 minute ago, PantherNation123 said:

again... ignore if you are solely focused on "the most interesting offseason event".  It's not a crazy concept to have multiple conversations at once.  You might not be able to handle it though bud

This is a quality post

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3 minutes ago, PantherNation123 said:

Thanks buddy.  Your comments on the other hand are absolutely trash

Mods can we pin this thread? I want to make sure every time I log in I can go back and re-read this 

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4 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Mods can we pin this thread? I want to make sure every time I log in I can go back and re-read this 

Curious why you would comment on a thread when you have nothing to offer?  Or do you just have nothing to offer at all times, so you need to troll?  Get a life loser

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12 minutes ago, PantherNation123 said:

]You might not be able to handle it though bud

 

8 minutes ago, PantherNation123 said:

Your comments on the other hand are absolutely trash

 

2 minutes ago, PantherNation123 said:

  Get a life loser

you seem like a quality fellow 

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