Who on our defense would work in a 3-4?

[jfra78]

lol made this thread a couple weeks ago

Kk Poe Butler on dl

Luke TD inside

Addison Shaq outside

The question is valid becaus ewe have no idea who our next DC will be.  They could come in here and set up a 3-4.  

[jfra78]

7 minutes ago, leoslayer said:

How good is Addison's pass coverage?

You can't always send the same 7 unless you are bringing both of them.

He's a question mark.

Addison has the build sand speed to play OLB in a 3-4, youre right the question is can he do it.  I think Addison could come up on line for nickle packages

[Captain Morgan]

1 hour ago, leoslayer said:

The reason it's hard to understand is most DCs don't run a 3-4.

Plus we would need at least 3 new starting linebackers. 

Obada gone, probably addison, Horton gone, you need tweener 3 techniques and teach them how to play that modified 5 technique. 

Haynes is the only guy we have to play 7 technique so we need another starter for the other side plus backups at all those positions. 

Not sure Luke would do well at Sam when he's been a Mike his whole life and the keys and fits are different. 

Essentially you would have to probably add 12 new guys to the front 7.

That makes zero sense. You run your system to fit your players not the other way around.

Only if we were a terrible team would you completely reinstall a defense. 

12 new guys.  Got it.  Thank you for your opinion on the question in the op.  Why did it take so long to get to it?  

 

 

[Woodie]

1 hour ago, leoslayer said:

The GM doesn't pick the philosophy of the defense. The HC and DC pick it.

 

Secondly they didn't start the 3-4 till cowher. It was a complete rebuild of the entire team. He had DL the godfather of 3-4 to install it.

Tomlin kept it because they already had a winning program so to blow it up to run 4-3 would have been stupid.

How it works is the Owner has a vision and philosophy he wants for the team (ex. JR wanted hard-nosed, defensive focused teams).  The owner hires a GM that will build the team with that philosophy in mind.  Then the GM will hire a coach whose philosophy aligns with the owners basic philosophy.  So, while you are technically correct that the coaches determine what philosophy they will employ, they really are only employing what those above them have identified as the identity of the team.  So, if the GM believes in the 3-4, he will hire a coach that will run that defense.

Cowher was hired in 1992.  That has been 26 years of a 3-4 defensive philosophy, so it has been ingrained into the team makeup and identity of the entire organization.  By this time, most, if not all of the key personnel have spent their entire time with the team in the 3-4.  So, it is logical that it is the defensive scheme they are most comfortable with since it is the only one they have employed during their time with the Steelers.  Therefore, it is a logical question to wonder if we have the personnel to run that defense.  

[Woodie]

49 minutes ago, leoslayer said:

How good is Addison's pass coverage?

You can't always send the same 7 unless you are bringing both of them.

He's a question mark.

It's not unusual for OLB's in a 3-4 to be primarily pass rushers.  Heck, I remember a talking head discussing how they had never seen DeMarcus Ware cover anybody.  While that was likely a bit of hyperbole, it exemplifies the point that in a 3-4, the primary pass rusher focuses on rushing the QB.  With that said, I do think Addison would be fine when asked to drop back in coverage.  And I see him as a short term placeholder anyway as we build the 3-4.  But he's already on the wrong side of 30, so I see him as a placeholder regardless of whatever scheme we employ. 

And, a good 3-4 coach will draw up schemes that will confuse the offense and keep them guessing not only who is coming, but where they are coming from.  In some ways, it's similar to the 4-3 in that you usually have at least 4 pass rushers, but rather than having 4 base linemen lined up in the traditional spots, you have the 3 down linemen, and a LB standing up that can come from anywhere.  

 

[Trill OG]

Fug a 3-4, we need to run a 5-2 with this shitty ass Dline.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, Immortal said:

everyone. but whats also weird as fug is that you can have a hybrid defense. you're allowed to go 4-3 and 3-4 and quarter and wide nickel or whatever. just putting the effort and doing something NEW and adapting but the panthers don't adapt as fast as other teams. 

 

the best NFL teams in the future will be able to flow to any formation.

 

This is what Ron promised us when he was hired, we just never actually saw it.

[1upkiller]

Draft Dexter Lawrence and we have a solid NT for a 3-4. 

[Davidson Deac II]

3 hours ago, Trill OG said:

Fug a 3-4, we need to run a 5-2 with this shitty ass Dline.

Wide tackle 6 baby.  

I am old enough to remember some college teams running it.  If memory serves, Maryland use to run it under Jerry Claiborne.