2016 - Our Biggest Mistake

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, Zaximus said:

Like the other 100 players that did it before him, it's the only bargaining power a player has in the NFL.   

lol you guys claim two things that cannot be true simultaneously:

"But... but... but he said that he would sign and play under the tag!"

Well, then why didn't he sign it?

"He couldn't sign the tag!  He would have had no bargaining power!"

(P.S. A player still has bargaining power even after signing the tag if he is SERIOUS about making a deal.  Instead of, you know, intending to hold out all along.  How?  Every team would rather prefer a contract where they can spread the cost of that contract over multiple years instead of a huge hit on the cap in a single, individual year.  That alone encourages teams to continue negotiating in good faith.  The reason you don't sign the tag as a player is that you don't plan to obligate yourself for just one year to the team applying that tag, i.e. you intend to HOLD OUT.)

 

[Cdw]

4 hours ago, RumHam said:

The secondary was still the problem this year. It performed somewhat better, but when exposed, they were truly as bad as expected. What wasn't expected was our defensive line taking a year off to collect free money outside of Addison. Mario deserves to be there. Everyone else can see their way out.

The Dline not getting pressure is a big part of making the secondary look bad.  Given all the time they want, QBs are going to gash our zone.  I think Bradberry, Jackson and Reid played well.

[CBDellinger]

2 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

lol you guys claim two things that cannot be true simultaneously:

"But... but... but he said that he would sign and play under the tag!"

Well, then why didn't he sign it?

"He couldn't sign the tag!  He would have had no bargaining power!"

(P.S. A player still has bargaining power even after signing the tag if he is SERIOUS about making a deal.  Instead of, you know, intending to hold out all along.  How?  Every team would rather prefer a contract where they can spread the cost of that contract over multiple years instead of a huge hit on the cap in a single, individual year.  That alone encourages teams to continue negotiating in good faith.  The reason you don't sign the tag as a player is that you don't plan to obligate yourself for just one year to the team applying that tag, i.e. you intend to HOLD OUT.)

 

That’s ridiculous... players don’t sign their tags till the deadline for negotiating a long term deal on the reg.  Which is usually mid July.   And all of this happened b4 the draft.  It doesn’t mean anything outside of being a bargaining chip in negotiations. 

We don’t know what Norman’s intentions were.  

What we do know is that after Norman was gone, DG fugged us for years to come with that craptastic draft class.  And that was draft was precipitated by his decision to rescind the tag.  

 

[thennek]

6 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

When I look back, two events triggered a lot of foundering around.  I am not even going to criticize the decisions on moving on from these two players, but the efforts to replace them took a lot of hit and miss efforts, mostly miss:

Steve Smith and Josh Norman. 

Every year since the 2014 draft we have been in the market for WRs, perhaps until now.  And the search for the ever-elusive shutdown corner, or one that can hold his own against a #1WR has been exhaustive. 

I agree and you can add a 3rd to this list....Jordan Gross forced out after the 2013 season. The Panthers hve been trying to replace him since....5-years. 

[tiger7_88]

The DG Haters are reveling in the current crap-tastic Rivera/Hurney squad, it seems.

[CBDellinger]

Hurney 2.0 has only had 1 offseason.  A lot of this squad is DGs doing... esp the depth positions/ST. 

Don’t worry tho, we will be suffering from Martys mistakes soon enough.