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Bet:Mahomes challenges Josh Allen to see who has the biggest arm

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On 4/6/2019 at 4:13 AM, micnificent28 said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001025442/article/patrick-mahomes-up-for-throwing-competition-with-josh-allen?campaign=fb-nf-sf210527458-sf210527458&sf210527458=1&fbclid=IwAR2XEXdwLW33fqelCMpPUKdsmXRQLwEmqVPvOl8aQsowHJC9vXs5-_RQ35c&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

 

Cam once held a strong top 5 spot in the league as far as Throwing power... Now these young guns seem to want to have a open duel to see who throws farther, Allen said its gonna take at least 85 yards in the air to beat him,while Mahomes holds a season record of longest completion at over 61 yards in the air... Take your bets....(its the offseason but this sounds fun)

It would not surprise me to see Mahomes throw the ball 100 yards in the air.  He has got maybe the strongest arm I have ever seen on a QB in my 38 years.  Being a baseball player / pitcher growing up helped his arm strength and his ability to throw from different angles tremendously.

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On 4/6/2019 at 9:08 AM, Wolfcop said:

Unlikely to happen. Can you imagine if one of them got hurt doing this? Anyway, he says "maybe" next off season. 

Why would an NFL QB hurt themselves by throwing the ball hard?  I would venture to say that their arms are in good enough condition to let a couple rip and not feel any adverse effects.

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100 yards in the air... LOL! GTFO

Mahomes has a great arm for sure, but with his feet set I don't think he has any better arm than Cam before the shoulder issues, Rodgers, Stafford, Flacco, etc. What really sets him apart is his ability to seemingly delivery the same velocity on the move and from weird throwing angles as he does when he has his feet set.

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19 hours ago, joemac said:

It would not surprise me to see Mahomes throw the ball 100 yards in the air.  He has got maybe the strongest arm I have ever seen on a QB in my 38 years.  Being a baseball player / pitcher growing up helped his arm strength and his ability to throw from different angles tremendously.

 

19 hours ago, joemac said:

Why would an NFL QB hurt themselves by throwing the ball hard?  I would venture to say that their arms are in good enough condition to let a couple rip and not feel any adverse effects.

 

19 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

100 yards in the air... LOL! GTFO

Mahomes has a great arm for sure, but with his feet set I don't think he has any better arm than Cam before the shoulder issues, Rodgers, Stafford, Flacco, etc. What really sets him apart is his ability to seemingly delivery the same velocity on the move and from weird throwing angles as he does when he has his feet set.

https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/ I mean if we are talking pitching speeds and such no one really is touch Allen seeing as he has had the highest throwing speed since they invented a means of tracking it since 2008. I don’t think most of the public is aware of the howitzer this kid has attached to his shoulder.

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https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/ I mean if we are talking pitching speeds and such no one really is touch Allen seeing as he has had the highest throwing speed since they invented a means of tracking it since 2008. I don’t think most of the public is aware of the howitzer this kid has attached to his shoulder.

Dude absolutely has a cannon, but he was also one of the least accurate QBs I've ever watched coming into the draft. My comparison for him was Christan Hackenberg. 

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Dude absolutely has a cannon, but he was also one of the least accurate QBs I've ever watched coming into the draft. My comparison for him was Christan Hackenberg. 

Humm hackenberg is harsh lol. I think he played well enough to be optimistic about him this year. Considering they had no talent around him on offense. Things I saw were flashes... he flashes rare athleticism, he had few big rushing games and I saw the big throws down the field. Accuracy wise there is a lot to work on.

But if I am just talking throwing power here is 80 yards in the air right here. Commentators are like he might step into the league and have the strongest arm. Sounds like raiders gm Mayock.

 

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5 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

 

I know we are talking arm strength but I would love to point out he is quietly one of the best rushing quarterbacks in the league, after they unleashed him had nearly 4 100 yard rushing games

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If you can't hit the broadside of a barn, you better be able to run. It'll be interesting to see if that carries over to next year and future years now that NFL DCs have a full season of film on him.

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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you can't hit the broadside of a barn, you better be able to run. It'll be interesting to see if that carries over to next year and future years now that NFL DCs have a full season of film on him.

Not disagreeing with you. I just think he has an amazing set of tools to work with. I think there were worse QBs year one than Allen(Rosen). I feel I can build of 10 touchdowns 12 ints. I feel better about Allen than I do Lamar Jackson as far as long term if I am coach.

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9 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Not disagreeing with you. I just think he has an amazing set of tools to work with. I think there were worse QBs year one than Allen(Rosen). I feel I can build of 10 touchdowns 12 ints. I feel better about Allen than I do Lamar Jackson as far as long term if I am coach.

He definitely has some great physical tools, but accuracy is HUGE when it comes to NFL QBs. People complain about Cam's somewhat erratic accuracy but Cam looks like Brady compared to Allen.

Jackson won't make it if he doesn't develop as a passer. The Ravens ran him an absurd number of carries for a QB last year. They really were running a straight up wildcat offense with him.

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