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Fan divisions

stankowalski

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Why does a fanbase get divided over one player. Of course I'm referencing Cam here because he's the only one that I can remember causing this much discord between fans.  Delhomme did to a degree but it was only after he had his surgery and he clearly wasn't the same.  I view Cam as a middling QB talent that declined after an onslaught of physical punishment. 

When we drafted Cam I figured (based on past observations of running QB's) that his window for helping the franchise was fairly short compared to prototypical pocket passers.  I believe that window is closed and Cam is done.  It doesn't mean I hate the Panthers and want them to lose, no it means I want the Panthers organization to realize that it's time to move forward.  I make no secret of the fact that I believe Cam is done. 

I'm not into sentimentality.  I want my teams to win.  But why don't other people share my view?  I'm honestly curious.  What makes you want to keep being mediocre by forcing a man out there that isn't physically the same as he once was?   Is there some misguided belief that as people age their bodies somehow miraculously improves?  I've had surgery.  I can tell you that I was better 5 years before the surgery than I was after it.  That's normal.  It's wear and tear.

Bottom line is that Cam is coming back eventually, and god bless him I hope he does well but I don't expect it especially given how much he's been pounded over the past 8-9 years.  I believe we should trade him to some sucker so that we can get some help in other areas.  We're not going to the super bowl this year quit fooling yourself.  If today's game wasn't an indicator then I don't know what to tell you.

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My issue is Rivera.  That philosophy of his does not work

Game after game. Year after year, it is the same. No sense in repeating all the reasons why   We know the reasons why 

A drastic change needs to come. Should have happened before this season and that change will dictate Cam’s future based on his year end performance and desire to continue 

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Said it before, will say it again...

If we win without Cam Newton, I'm not going to feel bad.

If we win without Kyle Allen, it's also not going to bother me.

If we win without Luke Kuechly, that's okay.

If we win without Christian McCaffrey, no problem.

If we win without Greg Olsen, James Bradberry, Shaq Thompson, Taylor Moton, Will Grier or anybody else, it just doesn't matter.

I can feel bad for players if they don't have individual success, but as ruthless as it may sound, as long as the team wins I don't really care that much.

It's the team's success that has meaning. Anything else is a very distant second, or third, or twentieth.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

That player sows division in the fanbase in large part because dipshits like you are pounding that wedge with the ferocity of a meth fueled jackhammer.

Me?  You won't find one negative comment by me about Cam until maybe the Super Bowl in 2015...go ahead and search mongoloid.  Difference between me and you is I want my team to win.

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The divisions are simple,

 

1) People who love cam but dont care what team hes on, just like him. 

 

2) People who are actually kinda racist and dont like cam so they just want allen regardless of outcome (these numbers are a lot lower than the cam only fans would have you believe, but I'm not naive enough not to admit they exist)

 

3) Panthers fans regardless of QB.  This is the largest segment, but these fans are far more quiet then their dipshit counterparts.

 

Sad part is cam supports allen and allen supports cam but the dipshits wont care.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Said it before, will say it again...

If we win without Cam Newton, I'm not going to feel bad.

If we win without Kyle Allen, it's also not going to bother me.

If we win without Luke Kuechly, that's okay.

If we win without Christian McCaffrey, no problem.

If we win without Greg Olsen, James Bradberry, Shaq Thompson, Taylor Moton, Will Grier or anybody else, it doesn't matter.

I can feel bad for players if they don't have individual success, but as ruthless as it may sound, as long as the team wins I don't really care that much.

It's the team's success that matters.

You know Mr Scot I think you're the most level headed fan in existence.  Especially for this shithole franchise.

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2 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

The divisions are simple,

 

1) People who love cam but dont care what team hes on, just like him. 

 

2) People who are actually kinda racist and dont like cam so they just want allen regardless of outcome (these numbers are a lot lower than the cam only fans would have you believe, but I'm not naive enough not to admit they exist)

 

3) Panthers fans regardless of QB.  This is the largest segment, but these fans are far more quiet then their dipshit counterparts.

 

Sad part is cam supports allen and allen supports cam but the dipshits wont care.

I LOVE theory 2 btw.  It's usually the leftist loonies that bring it up but it's still butter to me.

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2 minutes ago, stankowalski said:

Me?  You won't find one negative comment by me about Cam until maybe the Super Bowl in 2015...go ahead and search mongoloid.  Difference between me and you is I want my team to win.

I rooted for the Panthers well before Cam and I will root for the Panthers well after Cam. Meanwhile, you make poo threads like this

 

then bump it repeatedly and when no one takes the bait, you create a new thread with a slightly different angle. LOL @ you making a thread asking why this player drives divisions in this fanbase. Idiots like you ARE the division. Fug you. Straight up. 

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2 minutes ago, stankowalski said:

You know Mr Scot I think you're the most level headed fan in existence.  Especially for this shithole franchise.

If you'd have seen me a few hours ago, "level headed" probably wouldn't have been the first description that came to mind.

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