FS1 discussion on Cam and Tepper note just discussion

[raz]

1 hour ago, Call Me James said:

Most people know what they are attempting to accomplish. The failure usually comes with how. 

 

MJ, Magic, and Isiah Thomas have been around basketball their entire lives and are three of the best to do it. All have failed at putting together a winning team. 

 

Tepper had been a part owners since 2009. The steelers already had their franchise QB and already had a SB win with him. 

 

This is certainly uncharted territory. 

 

he's already 0-1 with me for bringing back ronco

[SBiii]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seems like sometimes the really talented players are really bad at identifying talent in others. Just look at Elway's QB drafting. Yikes...

The local NBA owner is the ultimate poster boy for what you are describing......the, ultimate.

[Biscuit]

1 hour ago, Cookie Lyon said:

Tepper's evil twin.

Tapper has a goatee.

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, Biscuit said:

Tapper has a goatee.

[LinvilleGorge]

55 minutes ago, SBiii said:

The local NBA owner is the ultimate poster boy for what you are describing......the, ultimate.

I didn't feel like it needed to be said again since he had already been mentioned in the post I quoted.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I didn't feel like it needed to be said again since he had already been mentioned in the post I quoted.

Was it Sanjay that kept insisting Jordan was gonna buy the Panthers?

(thank God that didn't happen)

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Was it Sanjay that kept insisting Jordan was gonna buy the Panthers?

(thank God that didn't happen)

Who knows what that idiot was saying. I'm sure the Hornets just need more TEs.

[SBiii]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I didn't feel like it needed to be said again since he had already been mentioned in the post I quoted.

Sorry didn't notice that.  Didn't read the whole thread.

[SBiii]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Was it Sanjay that kept insisting Jordan was gonna buy the Panthers?

(thank God that didn't happen)

Idiots at the Observer hinted at it along with Puff Daddy and a whole host of others who had zero chance.

Tepper was the lead horse is a 1-horse race to buy the Panthers, nobody else ever had a chance (nor were any of them really qualified).

[raleigh-panther]

Cam stays. Ron and Hurney go Is my feeling 

i have felt since 2017 there was something going on with Cam and now we know the contract things we have also seen his frustration with Rivera’s conservatism.  
 

I miss him and I’ll be point blank about it. Give me the chose and d Rivera’s happy ass is gone 

manning played fir years not at 100%

[Mr. Scot]

4 hours ago, SBiii said:

Idiots at the Observer hinted at it along with Puff Daddy and a whole host of others who had zero chance.

Tepper was the lead horse is a 1-horse race to buy the Panthers, nobody else ever had a chance (nor were any of them really qualified).

Not quite true.

The Observer reported that Diddy said he was interested (because he did) but Person, Rodrigue and Katie Peralta never took his bid seriously. Neither did they think Michael Jordan was an option, though they may have mentioned people suggesting it.

The only ones that ever got serious consideration and actual coverage from The Observer were Tepper, Ben Navarro, Michael Rubin and Alan Kastenbaum. They did follow Felix Sabates' early attempts but those didn't last long.

And yes, there were people other than Tepper who were qualified, but the NFL only want to Tepper. Michael Rubin kinda got screwed over in that deal.

[fortyrod]

11 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Both made some very good points

however my conspiracy theory is that tepper has been in contact with cam from the beginning and might have even advised him to sit out and get 100% healthy, which gave him a chance to evaluate Ron who seemed to hitch his wagon to Kyle Allen.

If we had a tinfoil hat icon, I'd give it to you. This is some high-quality theorizing right here.

[BrianS]

12 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seems like sometimes the really talented players are really bad at identifying talent in others. Just look at Elway's QB drafting. Yikes...

Actually, I agree with where you're trying to go, but I think it's a little more complex.

I believe that what happens with super talented players is they look at other players and only see the physical tools.  Using Elway as the example, you look at his physical tools . . . great arm, above average mobility.  But those were things that any number of players possess.  So now, Elway looks at a player and says "Hey, this guys has the same physical tools that I had."  And he's right.  What these executives who were formerly players aren't able to adequately measure and judge is what's in the head and heart. 

These exec's fail because they simply assume that if you have the same physical tools, you have the same internal tools as well.  Nothing could be further from the truth, and honestly that's the biggest difference between successful and unsuccessful players more often than not.  This to me is something that I see over and over.  How else do you explain those 7th round / undrafted players who go on to be great?

The most successful exec's are what they are because they've somehow learned to pick out the indicators of what a player has inside.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, BrianS said:

Actually, I agree with where you're trying to go, but I think it's a little more complex.

I believe that what happens with super talented players is they look at other players and only see the physical tools.  Using Elway as the example, you look at his physical tools . . . great arm, above average mobility.  But those were things that any number of players possess.  So now, Elway looks at a player and says "Hey, this guys has the same physical tools that I had."  And he's right.  What these executives who were formerly players aren't able to adequately measure and judge is what's in the head and heart. 

These exec's fail because they simply assume that if you have the same physical tools, you have the same internal tools as well.  Nothing could be further from the truth, and honestly that's the biggest difference between successful and unsuccessful players more often than not.  This to me is something that I see over and over.  How else do you explain those 7th round / undrafted players who go on to be great?

The most successful exec's are what they are because they've somehow learned to pick out the indicators of what a player has inside.

Interesting analysis...