For Igo and everyone else putting Cam on another team next season

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, WoahW said:

And acting like he’s 100% gone is totally wrong too.

Why does this fan base suck so fuging much? Seriously the owner of a fan group and the owner of a team forum are instantly ready to ship off our only franchise QB in history. 

Y’all aren’t real fuging fans apparently you all just care about the image of being fans. Beyond pathetic 

Do you think the Panthers are going to offer Greg Olsen a five-year, hundred-million-dollar extension and make him the highest paid tight end in the league?

No? Well then I guess you must hate Greg Olsen and you want to see him fail.

Think that's stupid? Well, it's the exact same logic that you're applying to these guys when they tell you what's happening with Cam Newton.

Igo, Zack and all the others who have inside tracks with the team know what they know. Now, I suppose they could ignore what they're hearing, tell everybody it's all good and Newton is gonna play here till he's 50, but if that's not what they see going on behind the scenes, what exactly does that accomplish?

Does it make some fans happy? Maybe, at least right up until the point that what they expect to happen doesn't happen. Then they're all gonna be pissed off at everybody because they got their hopes up. On top of that, nobody's going to listen to our insiders anymore because they gave out false info.

Oy 

There is zero, zip, nada to be gained from spreading false information. and talking about what they believe is going to happen has absolutely nothing to do with what they want to happen. The whole suggestion is just stupid.

They've also acknowledged that things could change, just as any intelligent, reasonable person should. But until they do there's not much point in them changing their outlook.

This really shouldn't be a difficult thing to understand, at least if you're looking at it logically and not through your emotions.

Bottom Line: What's going to happen is going to happen. All the positive thinking, denial, and whatever else anybody wants to do here is not going to change that.

Shooting the messenger sure as hell isn't changing it either.

[Mr. Scot]

26 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

No emotion on my part. I just think it'd be foolish to not give Cam a real chance to get healthy before giving up on him. He's too valuable of a commodity, if not to the Panthers, then to a ton of other teams - especially if he appears to be healthy. 

I mean the young man has rushed back from surgery and even played injured over the better part of 3 seasons. The team finally gives him time to get healthy (shoulder, the foot will heal in a few months), and they should flat out release him to save cap space? High draft picks are much much more valuable than cap. 

I just don't think it would be prudent. It could be a move the team regrets for very long time. 

Here's the problem.

You're thinking about the situation as if only the team has options and/or things they want to get out of this.

That's not true.

And assuming that what Newton wants and what the Panthers want are automatically the same thing is a fallacy.

[steven8989]

4 hours ago, jayflip said:

I accidentally read the comments section. A bunch of Steven8989s up in there. 

Maybe you would learn something from listening to an expert like me?

[WoahW]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Do you think the Panthers are going to offer Greg Olsen a five-year, hundred-million-dollar extension and make him the highest paid tight end in the league?

No? Well then I guess you must hate Greg Olsen and you want to see him fail.

Think that's stupid? Well, it's the exact same logic that you're applying to these guys when they tell you what's happening with Cam Newton.

Igo, Zack and all the others who have inside tracks with the team know what they know. Now, I suppose they could ignore what they're hearing, tell everybody it's all good and Newton is gonna play here till he's 50, but if that's not what they see going on behind the scenes, what exactly does that accomplish?

Does it make some fans happy? Maybe, at least right up until the point that what they expect to happen doesn't happen. Then they're all gonna be pissed off at everybody because they got their hopes up. On top of that, nobody's going to listen to our insiders anymore because they gave out false info.

Oy 

There is zero, zip, nada to be gained from spreading false information. and talking about what they believe is going to happen has absolutely nothing to do with what they want to happen. The whole suggestion is just stupid.

They've also acknowledged that things could change, just as any intelligent, reasonable person should. But until they do there's not much point in them changing their outlook.

This really shouldn't be a difficult thing to understand, at least if you're looking at it logically and not through your emotions.

Bottom Line: What's going to happen is going to happen. All the positive thinking, denial, and whatever else anybody wants to do here is not going to change that.

Shooting the messenger sure as hell isn't changing it either.

No one is saying Cam is getting an extension right now, where is that coming from? For real...at least be mature enough to not try and bullshit your way out of it 

Igo, and Zack inside sources? lol ok they might get some access to players but I promise they don’t get the inner workings of Tepper, let’s not act like they do. What they are saying is pure speculation as is what actual insiders who still have only limited sources and info such as Kyle Bailey, Adam Schefter, Florio, etc. Once again this situation can change on a million things so let’s not pretend anything anyone says now should be taken as anything more than speculation. People like you will take what your “insiders” will say as gospel regardless of being right or wrong welcome to the age of the internet where anyone can claim anything and if they are wrong “plans change”

So in the end you ignore my question totally, keeping playing both sides while of course propping up anyone who fits your narrative and think that’s an actual response? For a football “historian” you sure don’t know fuging much do you? 
 

Let me make it easy for you since you want to ignore everything. Here are all the situations that could happen tell me which one (maybe two) are in the best interest of the team. And please don’t act like Cam will hold out because he has to play 6 games minimum and holding out hurts any future contract options.

A.) Team keeps Cam and sees how he plays, if he is shot we move on next year, if he plays really well we extend him 

B.) Team trades Cam for a king’s ransom (this means other teams believe/know Cam is healthy)

C.) Team trades Cam for almost nothing (read 2nd round pick or worse) (It means teams are unsure of his health and we roll with a rookie or Allen/Grier)

D.) Cam sits out (This hurts Cam’s future contract options as it just tacks another year of teams being unsure, plus he needs 6 games to count as a year)

E.) Team release him for nothing 

 

A-E which one(s) are best for the team. Simple answer I’ll wait, oh and don’t twist it these are legitimately the only things the team can do with Cam going forward 

Oh and Scot, the reasons why they say “things can change” is because they don’t fuging know. It’s point blank obvious and why you can’t see that is sad 

[Jeremy Igo]

(AM radio guys are not insiders)

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, WoahW said:

No one is saying Cam is getting an extension right now, where is that coming from? For real...at least be mature enough to not try and bullshit your way out of it 

Igo, and Zack inside sources? lol ok they might get some access to players but I promise they don’t get the inner workings of Tepper, let’s not act like they do. What they are saying is pure speculation as is what actual insiders who still have only limited sources and info such as Kyle Bailey, Adam Schefter, Florio, etc. Once again this situation can change on a million things so let’s not pretend anything anyone says now should be taken as anything more than speculation. People like you will take what your “insiders” will say as gospel regardless of being right or wrong welcome to the age of the internet where anyone can claim anything and if they are wrong “plans change”

So in the end you ignore my question totally, keeping playing both sides while of course propping up anyone who fits your narrative and think that’s an actual response? For a football “historian” you sure don’t know fuging much do you? 
 

Let me make it easy for you since you want to ignore everything. Here are all the situations that could happen tell me which one (maybe two) are in the best interest of the team. And please don’t act like Cam will hold out because he has to play 6 games minimum and holding out hurts any future contract options.

A.) Team keeps Cam and sees how he plays, if he is shot we move on next year, if he plays really well we extend him 

B.) Team trades Cam for a king’s ransom (this means other teams believe/know Cam is healthy)

C.) Team trades Cam for almost nothing (read 2nd round pick or worse) (It means teams are unsure of his health and we roll with a rookie or Allen/Grier)

D.) Cam sits out (This hurts Cam’s future contract options as it just tacks another year of teams being unsure, plus he needs 6 games to count as a year)

E.) Team release him for nothing 

 

A-E which one(s) are best for the team. Simple answer I’ll wait, oh and don’t twist it these are legitimately the only things the team can do with Cam going forward 

If you happen to look up and see an object you don't recognize flying way over your head, that's the point. You missed it.

I've seen enough info from Igo and Zack to know that they know what they're talking about. You can deny that all you want. Again, your denial has no effect on reality.

As to your choices, unless you have a crystal ball that tells you whether Newton is going to be 100% healthy and stay that way for the next several years, you have no idea what the best outcome for the team is.

You don't want to see Newton go. I get it. What you don't get is that arguing against it on here doesn't make any difference.

What's going to happen will happen. Maybe it'll be what you want. Maybe it won't. Right now I'd say the letter is probably more likely. But if you get nothing else get this.

You can't change it.

[WoahW]

2 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

(AM radio guys are not insiders)

 

Photographers and Forum Owners aren’t either though...

But hey keep on keeping on my guy 

[Jeremy Igo]

2 minutes ago, WoahW said:

Photographers and Forum Owners aren’t either though...

But hey keep on keeping on my guy 

Lmao 

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you happen to look up and see an object you don't recognize flying way over your head, that's the point. You missed it.

I've seen enough info from Igo and Zack to know that they know what they're talking about. You can deny that all you want. Again, your denial has no effect on reality.

As to your choices, unless you have a crystal ball that tells you whether Newton is going to be 100% healthy and stay that way for the next several years, you have no idea what the best outcome for the team is.

You don't want to see Newton go. I get it. What you don't get is that arguing against it on here doesn't make any difference.

What's going to happen will happen. Maybe it'll be what you want. Maybe it won't. Right now I'd say the letter is probably more likely. But if you get nothing else get this.

You can't change it.

Hahahahaha you literally couldn’t even pick which one is best for t team going forward. Holy fug guy just stop, I get you think you look smart but I promise reading comprehension makes you look silly.

No one has a crystal ball but those are what the team can do, what helps the team best, A, B, C, D, or E? That simple, no tricks or gotcha moments just a pure simple multiple choice question and answer. 
 

Oh and please show me all the breaking stories they’ve been in front of or right about before others. You want to throw the weight around bring the receipts because no amount of you cawing for them will effect the reality of it. 

[steven8989]

1 hour ago, RoaringRiot said:

Yes taking the Tweet as a definitive Cam will be back is absolutely wrong. That’s what I said.  Stupid poo like this is why I don’t post here anymore. 

 

9 minutes ago, WoahW said:

No one is saying Cam is getting an extension right now, where is that coming from? For real...at least be mature enough to not try and bullshit your way out of it 

Igo, and Zack inside sources? lol ok they might get some access to players but I promise they don’t get the inner workings of Tepper, let’s not act like they do. What they are saying is pure speculation as is what actual insiders who still have only limited sources and info such as Kyle Bailey, Adam Schefter, Florio, etc. Once again this situation can change on a million things so let’s not pretend anything anyone says now should be taken as anything more than speculation. People like you will take what your “insiders” will say as gospel regardless of being right or wrong welcome to the age of the internet where anyone can claim anything and if they are wrong “plans change”

So in the end you ignore my question totally, keeping playing both sides while of course propping up anyone who fits your narrative and think that’s an actual response? For a football “historian” you sure don’t know fuging much do you? 
 

Let me make it easy for you since you want to ignore everything. Here are all the situations that could happen tell me which one (maybe two) are in the best interest of the team. And please don’t act like Cam will hold out because he has to play 6 games minimum and holding out hurts any future contract options.

A.) Team keeps Cam and sees how he plays, if he is shot we move on next year, if he plays really well we extend him 

B.) Team trades Cam for a king’s ransom (this means other teams believe/know Cam is healthy)

C.) Team trades Cam for almost nothing (read 2nd round pick or worse) (It means teams are unsure of his health and we roll with a rookie or Allen/Grier)

D.) Cam sits out (This hurts Cam’s future contract options as it just tacks another year of teams being unsure, plus he needs 6 games to count as a year)

E.) Team release him for nothing 

 

A-E which one(s) are best for the team. Simple answer I’ll wait, oh and don’t twist it these are legitimately the only things the team can do with Cam going forward 

Oh and Scot, the reasons why they say “things can change” is because they don’t fuging know. It’s point blank obvious and why you can’t see that is sad 

Your dumb as hell and don't know poo. Igo and Zack know more than you ever will. If you want to stick in your fantasy land go ahead because your feelings going to be hurt when this is all over with. 

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Lmao 

Right? Imagine thinking that, insane. 

[Jeremy Igo]

(Zack has more inside sources with Cam than any journalist out there)

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, stirs said:

So if Tepper made his money selling used cars, you think he'd post an ad like this?

30 yr old car

Right front suspension a mess, been in the shop several times, hoping it will steer correctly soon.

Leaks oil.

''But we have to do the right thing for the team. We value the values Jalen adds to us, to the Jaguars. I think we value him highly. We're still looking at what is the right thing for the Jaguars, and I think right now the best thing is to have him be part of the team."

- Jaguars owner Shad Khan, quoted in a Sports Illustrated story entitled "Jaguars owner has no plans to trade Jalen Ramsey", published October 2nd, 2019.

Thirteen days after that story was published, Ramsey was traded to the Los Angeles Rams.

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, steven8989 said:

 

Your dumb as hell and don't know poo. Igo and Zack know more than you ever will. If you want to stick in your fantasy land go ahead because your feelings going to be hurt when this is all over with. 

Lol you fuging kids are funny as hell. You guys have a group chat together or what?