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3 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

You make my point for me.  The Falcons were a worse team than the Panthers early this year.  As were the Dolphins, Lions, Bucs, etc, etc...

That simply ended up being not the case during the last 8 weeks of the season.  We were significantly worse than all of those teams.

Lol...no it doesn't make your point...only if those teams were still bad and beat us...

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Just now, DeAngelo Beason said:

Ok, well the Dolphins finished with an equal record to our own against stronger competition with far more impressive wins, so there's an objective fact for you.  You're the one who's been harping on them, not me.

And your original assertion was we are the worst team in football. Now that the season has concluded, the relevant fact is we're picking 7th, so obviously more than one or two teams had a worse season than us. All this obsession over saying "OMG we're the worst team rite nao" is simply emotion based negativism bent on focusing on things that agree with your predetermined conclusion and ignoring all else. IE, you ignored this argument for days until you felt you had one fact (Dolphins beating the Pats) that validated your position, while continuing to ignore the fact that multiple other teams still clearly had worse seasons than we did.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

And your original assertion was we are the worst team in football. Now that the season has concluded, the relevant fact is we're picking 7th, so obviously more than one or two teams had a worse season than us. All this obsession over saying "OMG we're the worst team rite nao" is simply emotion based negativism bent on focusing on things that agree with your predetermined conclusion and ignoring all else. IE, you ignored this argument for days until you felt you had one fact (Dolphins beating the Pats) that validated your position, while continuing to ignore the fact that multiple other teams still clearly had worse seasons than we did.

 

 

If you look at my posting history I do not post on weekends.  I wasn't ignoring anything.

Again, I only mentioned the Dolphins because you're the one who kept saying they were worse than us.  I was simply letting you know that's merely one of the things you were wrong about.

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1 minute ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

If you look at my posting history I do not post on weekends.  I wasn't ignoring anything.

Again, I only mentioned the Dolphins because you're the one who kept saying they were worse than us.  I was simply letting you know that's merely one of the things you were wrong about.

I was citing them as an example of a team with a worse record than us, something pretty obvious if you take my post in context. Although the Dolphins may have pulled even with us record wise on the last day of the season, your position was that we are teh worst team in the league. There are still multiple teams with worse records to refute that notion and now that the season is over it's a settled matter. Again, you continue to focus only on things which support your position, while ignoring any evidence to the contrary.

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2 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Yeah, we were 5-5 when the 3-7 Falcons beat us by more than 3 touchdowns at home.

They were beating better competition while we were losing to worse competition.

Am I typing another language or something?

Yes you are...if non sensical is a language...

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1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

I was citing them as an example of a team with a worse record than us, something pretty obvious if you take my post in context. Although the Dolphins may have pulled even with us record wise on the last day of the season, your position was that we are teh worst team in the league. There are still multiple teams with worse records to refute that notion and now that the season is over it's a settled matter. Again, you continue to focus only on things which support your position, while ignoring any evidence to the contrary.

It is hilarious how honed in on record you are.  

So when we were 5-2 we were one of the 5 BEST teams in the league, right?  You make no sense at all.

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2 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

It is hilarious how honed in on record you are.  

So when we were 5-2 we were one of the 5 BEST teams in the league, right?  You make no sense at all.

No, and I feel like you're completely missing or deliberately ignoring the underlying point here. When we were 5-2 all I was willing to say was we're playing pretty good football right now, but the potential weaknesses were visible so my position was tempered. By contrast, when we were losing later in the season, you threw your hands in the air and pronounced us the worst team in the league, ignoring earlier good play. The difference is your approach is based on extremism and emotion, my approach is based on "things look good or bad atm but let's see how they play out" Now the season is done, not only were we not the worst team by record, we weren't the worst team by point differential, or by some large number of statistical measures. So in the end any claim you made of us being the worst was entirely subjective and supportable AT BEST by cherry picking one or two facts to support your position while ignoring all else.

If that doesn't make sense to you, then I can't help you, because you're deliberately ignoring reason, which would be why my reasoned position makes no sense to you.

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3 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Ok, please explain how what I am saying is nonsense then?  I am genuinely curious.  I think you probably just know I'm right and are resorting to half-assed, weak remarks instead of putting forth something compelling.

Of course you think that ...in comparison and judging worth a higher value doesnt reduce a lower value...losing to a much better team doesn't make us worse...

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