"Multiple Teams have reached out to the Jets about Darnold"

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think trading(hypothetically) the 8th pick was "giving it away." You were using the #8 pick to draft Matt Stafford. Technically, that is kind of crushing your pick. The mid-rounder would suck a little but we also have two extra compensatory picks we are supposed to get and this is a DEEP OL draft, especially inside. No reason we couldn't still take 3+ OL in the draft without #8 or one of our mid-rounders. 

The blocking issue was already a problem this past year but statistically we performed better in most blocking metrics due to the scheme. It's not ideal at all but we do have the ability to temporarily cover up some of those deficiencies with our offense. poo, Cam covered up a lot of those deficiencies for years. 

I don't think making the Stafford trade means we couldn't have improved on the OL. Those don't have independent things. Especially since we may not use that #8 pick on an OL anyway. If Slater or Sewell is gone, why would we reach on an OL? If a QB is there or Slater or Sewell, why wouldn't you jump on the QB outside of him just not being high on your board?

At what cost and how many years are we getting from him?  Trading for MS is a win now move and this franchise, no matter what Rhule or whoever say, is not that close

[ncfan]

8 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Then someone else will fall.  Do you research and make sure whoever that is fits in the scheme of what you are trying to do. 

I believe there is 0% chance 4 qbs' go in the top 7 picks.  It jsut doesnt happen

Who will fall? Mac Jones?

 

Its a real possibility that 4 QBs go before 8.

Most analysts are even saying this, many scouts are saying this.

 

This is a very hungry year for a QB.  Ian Rapaport or schefter just recently said he predicts 18 QB changes around the league this offseason.

This is why Stafford just went for 2 1sts AND Goff.

This is why its being leaked that Wentz is being traded for more than a 1st.

We're going to have to trade away something reguardless for a QB, whether it be move up from 8 in the draft OR trade for someone else.

[Chief Keek]

7 minutes ago, USC/panthers_11 said:

Someone who was picked #1 overall in the draft is mediocre talent? LMAO. The Jets are sh*t organization. 

Darnold was #3 overall and just because a player is picked in the top portion of the draft doesn't mean they can't be mediocre.

[USC/panthers_11]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Who was picked #1 overall?

Excuse me - I had a brain fart. Darnold was picked #3 overall. I had Matthew Stafford on my mind who was picked at #1. I stand by point, however.  Darnold is much more talented than Bridgewater. I still am hoping to draft a QB either way, though. 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Who will fall? Mac Jones?

 

Its a real possibility that 4 QBs go before 8.

Most analysts are even saying this, many scouts are saying this.

 

This is a very hungry year for a QB.  Ian Rapaport or schefter just recently said he predicts 18 QB changes around the league this offseason.

This is why Stafford just went for 2 1sts AND Goff.

This is why its being leaked that Wentz is being traded for more than a 1st.

We're going to have to trade away something reguardless for a QB, whether it be move up from 8 in the draft OR trade for someone else.

If we are an analytics franchise then trust the numbers that a guy will be there at 8.  It would be a statistical abnormally if 4 went in 7 picks.  Even so, if it happened then the value of pick 8 would absolutely sky rocket as there would be the top prospect for just about every other position. 

Edited February 7, 2021 by mrcompletely11

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, USC/panthers_11 said:

Excuse me - I had a brain fart. Darnold was picked #3 overall. I had Matthew Stafford on my mind who was picked at #1. I stand by point, however.  Darnold is much more talented than Bridgewater. I still am hoping to draft a QB either way, though. 

my 15 year old has a better arm than Teddy but that doesnt mean its enough of an upgrade to build a franchise around

[TheCasillas]

13 minutes ago, ncfan said:

There's a strong possibility that Lance wont make it to 8. 

There are only 2 teams ahead of us that wil likely draft a QB. Considering Lance is the 4/5 best QB in the draft... im not concerned. Also, if somehow 4-5 QBs are drafted before we pick... thats a ridiculous amount of talent available for us at 8... I'd rather kick the can on a FA or Middle round pick for someone like Darnold.

[ncfan]

5 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

There are only 2 teams ahead of us that wil likely draft a QB. Considering Lance is the 4/5 best QB in the draft... im not concerned. Also, if somehow 4-5 QBs are drafted before we pick... thats a ridiculous amount of talent available for us at 8... I'd rather kick the can on a FA or Middle round pick for someone like Darnold.

2?

There are 3 in the top 4

[USC/panthers_11]

Just now, Chief Keek said:

Darnold was #3 overall and just because a player is picked in the top portion of the draft doesn't mean they can't be mediocre.

Yep. See my above post. I think the jury is still out on Darnold. I'd like to see how he does with another team before making a final judgement. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

There are only 2 teams ahead of us that wil likely draft a QB. Considering Lance is the 4/5 best QB in the draft... im not concerned. Also, if somehow 4-5 QBs are drafted before we pick... thats a ridiculous amount of talent available for us at 8... I'd rather kick the can on a FA or Middle round pick for someone like Darnold.

Yep its win win no matter what we do just for the love of God dont trade the damn pick

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, ncfan said:

2?

There are 3 in the top 4

You keep thinking ATL is going to pick a qb but they are not.  They are stuck with Ryan for 2 seasons and it would be insanity to let a qb sit for 2 years when there is the top corner (their biggest need) staring at you in the face.

[USC/panthers_11]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

my 15 year old has a better arm than Teddy but that doesnt mean its enough of an upgrade to build a franchise around

Not sure if you saw I mentioned I want the Panthers to draft a QB. Anyone is worth considering for the right price, however. 

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, ncfan said:

2?

There are 3 in the top 4

The falcons are NOT going to pick a QB. It is not even close to the the needs of that team. Plus the team has been pretty vocal about Ryan and Julio. 

https://bloggingdirty.com/2021/02/01/atlanta-falcons-arent-drafting-qb/

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, USC/panthers_11 said:

Not sure if you saw I mentioned I want the Panthers to draft a QB. Anyone is worth considering for the right price, however. 

I was trying to make a funny, but you absolutely are right