Quit it with ripping Fox for clapping after a bad play...

[Sultan33g]

Clearly some of you have never come close to managing people.

lol guess not...sh^t I manage people everyday and beat the sh^t out of them...they love it

[Matt Foley]

The floggings will continue until morale improves.

[Guest]

Managing people and managing players are two different things. In any professional sport, players are among a very small, select, very highly paid group of individuals who are the best at what they do. Perfection should be expected and demanded. Leave the mentoring for the business world.

[Darth Biscuit]

you would have to ask biscuit that

You should try it sometime...

[Phil Dees]

Definitely a tactic that should end after Pop Warner level.

:mad5: > :hurray:

[Matt Foley]

"He treats us all the same...like dogs."

-- Packers Hall of Famer about coach Vince Lombardi

[Urrymonster]

Managing people and managing players are two different things. In any professional sport, players are among a very small, select, very highly paid group of individuals who are the best at what they do. Perfection should be expected and demanded. Leave the mentoring for the business world.

Players aren't people? They are not allowed to make mistakes?

Hate to say it but perfection is impossible, luckily this thing is a team sport and therefore individual mistakes can be accounted for by the other players. When bad things happen, usually several make mistakes. When that happens, as a coach, you know that these guys KNOW they have made a mistake. What good does trying to destroy their confidence do? Everyone performs better when confident, so why try and rob that from your own players?!

Obviously some players do not realise when they make mistakes and they are the ones that need the glares and the stern words (see JaMarcus' thoughts on how he is playing???).

The other thing to do, is that laying into your players and not supporting basically means the coach is blaming them for the mistakes on the field, even if it was a bad play call. Not giving support to your players is a quick way to lose a team. In addition being a tough task master is fine when you are winning, but when you are not you will quickly see a change in how players respond to it.

[George Shinnsplints]

Repeated ass-pattings and "it's OKs" after these highly-paid athletes screw up is not conducive to improvement. It's conducive to complacency.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

clap.............clap..................clap.............clap............6 ints later.........clap...........clap....oops a fumble..............clap...gum chomping and evasive answers to the media ensues......it just gets old.

[Zod]

because yelling at him would have made him play better?

lol

[Guest]

Players aren't people? They are not allowed to make mistakes?

Hate to say it but perfection is impossible, luckily this thing is a team sport and therefore individual mistakes can be accounted for by the other players. When bad things happen, usually several make mistakes. When that happens, as a coach, you know that these guys KNOW they have made a mistake. What good does trying to destroy their confidence do? Everyone performs better when confident, so why try and rob that from your own players?!

Obviously some players do not realise when they make mistakes and they are the ones that need the glares and the stern words (see JaMarcus' thoughts on how he is playing???).

The other thing to do, is that laying into your players and not supporting basically means the coach is blaming them for the mistakes on the field, even if it was a bad play call. Not giving support to your players is a quick way to lose a team. In addition being a tough task master is fine when you are winning, but when you are not you will quickly see a change in how players respond to it.

Not saying to lay into players a la Cowher. Players are people of course but they should be and are held to a higher standard than some dude in middle-management (like me )

[George Shinnsplints]

Repeated ass-pattings and "it's OKs" after these highly-paid athletes screw up is not conducive to improvement. It's conducive to complacency.

And I'm well aware of the coaching philosophy that for every time you rip into a player, you should be praising them at least twice. But clapping after a turnover or dumb play, when these plays are not acceptable, just creates cognitive dissonance. Clap when they do good things, not when they do bad things. You want players to play hard and play well in an attempt to earn your praise as a coach; you don't want your players to have some subconscious confusion over whether they should screw up so they can be clapped for and consoled.

[Sultan33g]

because yelling at him would have made him play better?

lol

maybe they should have pulled his tommy john arm out of socket instead..lol

[Samuel L. Jackson]

Leave Fox/Jake alooooone!