The other side of "It is what it is."

[top dawg]

We have all heard John Fox repeat this trite, but true phrase over the years. Yes, it's true in all situations. It is what it is. How can it not be? Right? Well, I subject to you that "it is what it is", may not be completely true in reference to the the current situation of the Panthers. There is another side:

It's not what it's not.

Now, of course, I could go through all of reasons as to why John Fox's system is not the model of genius that some---still to this day---believe that it is. I could also tell you that this is not another fire Fox thread (but it's not), but it is what it is.

If it is what it is, then it's not what it's not. And, if it's not, then why after all these years isn't it?

The next time you hear John Fox say "It is what it is", I want you to hear the other side, and then tell me what business an NFL coach (especially one who has been at the head for years) has saying the phrase.

BTW, I also approve of "It ain't what it ain't."

[Pejorative Miscreant]

Well put

[Jangler]

blah

[SMACKDAB]

How about.....

We keep getting fvcked by him!

Now that....is what it is.

[pamlicopanther]

How About;

It's just fu@*ing Football.

[SMACKDAB]

How About;

It's just fu@*ing Football.

If that's how you think....then you need to find something else to support then.

To some people that that really love, and have a passion for this game, that is like hearing "It's just a kid", when child is found dead.

Sorry....doesn't work that way.

[panthers55]

The other correllaries are:

It isn't what many people think it is.

It isn't always what people try to make it be.

If you aren't there, you have no idea what it is.

[SMACKDAB]

The other correllaries are:

It isn't what many people think it is.

It isn't always what people try to make it be.

If you aren't there, you have no idea what it is.

Then why do you criticize everybody else for their thought process about this organization, but stand by yours?

[pamlicopanther]

If that's how you think....then you need to find something else to support then.

To some people that that really love, and have a passion for this game, that is like hearing "It's just a kid", when child is found dead.

Sorry....doesn't work that way.

I guess you are right - If football compares to a child being found dead than I don't have a true passion for it.

[Jangler]

I like"The Far Side" more.

[panthers55]

Then why do you criticize everybody else for their thought process about this organization, but stand by yours?

Are you saying I don't have a right to my own opinion or to disagree with you? I think everyone has a right to their own opinion and to express it. And I think people have a right to disagree with one another. I also think having facts, articles, and a reason to disagree is preferable to a random opinion or speculation.

What you call criticizing I call expressing a counter argument which almost always I back up with facts and information. If that is criticizing then what's wrong with that?

You do it all the time and often with personal insults and attacks.

[Jangler]

wrong!

[SMACKDAB]

Are you saying I don't have a right to my own opinion or to disagree with you? I think everyone has a right to their own opinion and to express it. And I think people have a right to disagree with one another. I also think having facts, articles, and a reason to disagree is preferable to a random opinion or speculation.

What you call criticizing I call expressing a counter argument which almost always I back up with facts and information. If that is criticizing then what's wrong with that?

You do it all the time and often with personal insults and attacks.

I'll need some facts to back this up.

I do love football and my team a great deal, but most of what I post on here is in jest, and just the hell of it. If it get's a rise out of you....then it's working.

[panthers55]

I'll need some facts to back this up.

I do love football and my team a great deal, but most of what I post on here is in jest, and just the hell of it. If it get's a rise out of you....then it's working.

I saw your shocking souls 4 fun moniker under the avatar right away and knew your game. I usually just ignore you unless you get personal or negative. I know that you do it for a reaction. And sometimes it works. Never saw the value in baiting people for personal amusement but it takes all kinds. As I have said before you have a right to do whatever as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others.

So shock away and fish all you want.