Comparing Current Roster Against 2003

[Seltzer]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

yep, Manning Jr also has a lot to do with my Horn hesitation going in.  Manning Jr only worked playing a certain way.  He couldn't adjust and find success playing different. 

 

It's a legitimate concern.  My hope is that Horn is a superior athlete and can use his speed to compensate for the difference in physicality.

Horn's only real knock I could find is that he is overly handsy with receivers... I hope with good coaching and having officials at training camp will help him find a happy medium...

That being said, we definitely need more aggression in our secondary overall, and hopefully having Horn and Chinn along with the other guys will turn this unit into a force that can actually cover the big-time receivers they will have to go against in the NFC South

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Bridgewater had 3700 yards and Delhome had 3200. Their difference wasn’t as much as the WR difference. The 2020 Panthers weren’t some sort of juggernaut passing team that rolled up stats. Considering Teddy’s check down and missing deep/ignoring wide open deep plays, it’s amazing to think that we had 3 WRs with over 1000 total yards a piece.

We are comparing the 2003 WRs to 2020/2021 WRs not what the WRs became. Again, Proehl did barely anything (22-23 yards a game), so it really was 2003 Smith and Muhammad against 2020/2021 Moore, Anderson and Samuel/Marshall-Moore-Smith (not sure who will be #3). We can only hope that Marshall becomes a stud and Darnold has no other recourse than to explode.

Honestly, we don’t know what the final careers of Moore, Anderson and Marshall will be but I’d put the 2020 WRs above the trio of 2003 WRs based on the results. Just one man’s opinion.

Well, it's just two totally different eras IMO of the passing offense.  The rules have dictated QBs and WRs have an easier time completing balls today.  That is a major factor in my positioning.   

and my preference for 2003 is heavily weighted on the 1 and 2 spots.  I just think 89 and Moose did some ridiculous stuff given the coverage and balls Jake threw. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I here you, just think we’ve got a very talented and hopefully not under appreciated anymore with Sam. Teddy’s results were far more based on what his WRs did for him than his throws. I still think Moore is tragically underrated and we may see that change, hopefully so.

I agree on Moore being underrated.  I don't think we have any idea on what his ceiling actually could be....given he has never really played with a QB who could really test that out.   Cam's arm was shot and Teddy wouldn't take the shots (then sprinkle in some really bad QBs mixed in for him). 

That was the pro with Jake.  Jake would at least allow you to see everything a WR had in them.   

 

[Basbear]

03 wolly mops this group.

I will say this- what are the rules they are playing under? Cause they will makes the score closer, but still a W for 03.